Important question: what do you think Wish!Rumpled, who never experienced the curse or being Mr Gold, would wear in the land without magic? Would he still go for suits? Would he shake things up?
I don’t know why but the first thing that popped into my head was “yes a suit but no not like that” – one with sort of ‘dandy’ style to it. Wish!Rumple from what I could remember was even more flamboyant, with flair and eccentricity (he had been possibly locked up without company for years so fair enough).
So the jacket would maybe be longer with tails? Patterns and colours rather than so austere, interesting cuts and accessories. I can just see wish!Rumple prancing about the way he does as an imp in human form, in a way classic Rumple never would.
Wish!Rumple just strikes me as wanting to say “I have power (or money)” but also be a bit more “in your face” about it. Classic Gold is quite understated, very business like, very power in the room but you don’t notice him so much.
I also need a fic where the blasted fairies didn’t show up and Rumpel got to be raised by two parents who loved him. And him being a Saviour didn’t become an issue until…I don’t know, when would it become an issue? Would magical powers show up? Without the Black Fairy as the Evil needing defeating…what if he went off to war and his powers first manifested against the ogres, and he was able to return a hero instead of the coward who lamed himself to avoid a battle and death?
It’s an origin story! Where do you think knight!Rumple got his magic from? The Light One is the Savior 🙂
If Rumple was raised by his parents then Belle wouldn’t be born for another couple of hundred years, but AU Light One!Rumple could work for that. I know it was just a made-up world in a book and the generations were all screwy for magical reasons, I’m being silly today.
That wonderful parallel gifset where Rumple says about Doctor Hopper’s office being down the street just came up on my dash again.
What if because people in the Enchanted Forest always turned to Rumple to solve their problems, they kept doing that under the curse? I mean a quick deal with the Dark One seemed to be what everyone did when the slightest problem cropped up. So it would be like a subconscious thing, and cursed!Gold wouldn’t have any idea why. Hence why he got into the reflex habit of directing everyone to Doctor Hopper’s office.
I forgot to put this in my review. I’ve seen a few posts floating around saying that Bae using the dagger against Rumple is a retcon, because Rumple told August that Bae would never control him. I don’t believe it’s a retcon for one simple reason.
Rumple had a couple of hundred years with just the memory of Bae, and how he felt that he’d let his son down – how he’d failed him. I mean Rumple already had Bae as the center of his universe – “without him I’d truly be dust” – and he thought that Bae made him stronger, was the best part of him etc. So I’m sure after two hundred years, in Rumple’s mind Bae was the most perfect son ever who could never do anything wrong.
The sheer depth of Rumple’s self-loathing would probably make him twist everything so that Bae was right. In Rumple’s mind everything would be his fault, never Bae’s. So while he might remember what Bae did, Rumple would put it down to circumstance, it never happened again, it was just a one-time thing, and it was a mistake, and Bae doesn’t even remember so it’s like it never happened. Rumple would never want to remind Bae of something he’s trying to protect him from.
I need a gifset of Rumple striding up to Gideon, turning to the Blue Fairy and taking care of business like I need air.
“I’m not here to stop you. I’m here to do it for you. I won’t let you touch the darkness” – essentially I will do whatever nasty stuff needs to happen so that you don’t have to – I will be the villain to protect you.
This is the Rumple I knew, finally on screen in all his glory.
I also need one with Rumple giving Bae memory potion and letting his son hate him, taking all the judgement on himself just to spare Bae the unpleasant reality. Think about what Rumple could have had. Bae could have understood him but he cared more about what was right for Bae, than what he wanted.
Honestly I don’t think I’ve loved an episode this much since season two.
OTP: Rumbelle of course, kinda goes without saying 🙂
BrOTP: Probably not a popular answer but got to be honest – Regina. I love those two working together.
OT3: Don’t have one. Well not unless either Rumple or Belle split themselves, or their counterparts from an alternate reality come to town. I could see Belle/Rumple/Lacey, or Gold/Belle/Dark One!Rumple or you know any variation thereof because it’s still Rumbelle at the end of the day.
NoTP: Anyone but Belle to be honest but especially GoldenQueen. I love Rumple and Regina working together as frenemies, family though Henry, former mentor and student etc. but romance just no, no, wrong, very wrong.
I’ve been watching the anti-Belle comments add up on this transcript post ever since the night the episode aired, and didn’t respond till now b/c I considered those transcripts to be something I put out there for the fandom to use as they want, and people are allowed to have their opinions even if I disagree with them.
(That said, if I do the transcripts for 6B, I’ll be adding a request to each one that if people want to make anti comments about either character, not to do it on the transcript post. People are allowed to have their opinions, but I don’t want hateful opinions associated with my blog.)
But I’m finally speaking up on that particular scene, b/c I just don’t get it. What, exactly, did Belle say that was so awful?
She told him that she wouldn’t allow him to tamper with their son’s fate, like any mother defending their child would do. She reiterated that she believes him to be capable of love, and capable of being a good man. She asked him to be that good man and good father who earns his son’s love, rather than taking it by magical force.
She accused him of being afraid of failing, of being weak. That seems to be the point which really provoked many fans’ wrath. I saw that as her challenging him. She’s always challenged him, right from the beginning. She still thinks he can be a good, decent man…not a perfect one, just a good one. How is challenging him to be good, such an awful thing?
I just don’t understand where all the hate is coming from, based on that one short scene.
You said I could respond, so here’s my response 🙂 Obviously I can only speak for me. I come from the perspective that I support both Rumple and Belle, I don’t side with one over the other, I try and see both sides. That being said I had a real problem with this scene. Why is that?
Under the cut for length. Also in case this doesn’t get copied in the tags, warning for discussion of mental illness.
Regina: Everything comes at a price with you. What do you want for this? Mr. Gold: For a house call? You couldn’t afford it. But this is for Henry. This one’s on me.
I love this scene so much. They didn’t know they were Grandpa and Grandson at the time, which makes it even better, a real testament to who the characters were and what was important to them.
#flails happily#eeeeek I love it so much#i love it i love it#i need more regina henry and rumple scenes#thank you so much for making this#that’s probably enough tags now but man there are not the words for how much i love this#they are such a family#this makes me so happy#this was just what i wanted yeah!#you are so kind thank you so much
Has anyone else noticed this continuity error? We were told in S5 that Dark Ones don’t sleep. So what was up with Gold having a nightmare in the ‘Lacey’ episode?
The writers don’t remember their own rules and add new ones when it’s convenient for them, no matter what’s been shown in the past. This is why people continually come back from them dead. This is why portals are easier to open than a bag of chips. I know there are more, but they’re not coming to mind.
I have always thought it was more that dark one’s don’t need to sleep, but they can if they want/are able to do so. Therefore after twenty-eight cursed years as Gold, Rumple probably was in the habit of sleeping everyday. He kept it up perhaps because it made him feel more human. That would be a good thing for both his developing relationship with Belle, and for reconnecting with Bae (Neal) when he found him.
So Rumple could sleep and have a nightmare, and still mean that “dark one’s don’t sleep” is true. That’s my headcanon anyway. It seemed to make sense to me.
There’s a funny post on my dash right now. There’s a screencapped tweet – “Actually, Hook & Rumple are the reason for the show. Their feud set the whole plot in motion.” – and then a photo manip of Hook over the Evil Queen and Rumple over Snow, – I will destroy your happiness if it’s the last thing I do.
I didn’t want to hijack that post but I did want to respond to it. My first response, after laughing, was to think that actually the event that set the whole plot in motion, wasn’t Regina vs Snow.
That set a lot of things in motion but the Dark Curse, was the main plot point for season one (what led up to it, and then present day breaking of it). It wasn’t what season one was about, I would say that it was more about family, the relationship between Emma and Henry etc. but I’m getting off point.
The dark curse would never have happened if not for Rumple’s quest to reunite with Baelfire. Rumple manipulated everything, including tampering with Regina and Snow’s feud, to ensure everything led to the casting of the curse so he could get to the land without magic.
I would argue that what set the whole plot in motion was Rumple and Bae, a father’s search for his son.
Exactly–the entire basis of the show is rumple and Bae, and Rumple’s quest to save him–which led to both Regina’s birth and her ability to cast the curse, setting the Storybrooke part in motion.
Killy was a plot device at best–the thing that caused Bae to permanently lose his mother. But we saw from Devil’s Due that even when Milah was around, Rumle would go to almost anyy length to save Bae–and that she couldn’t be bothered. If Rumple and Milah had still been married at the time of Desperate Souls/the Return, events would probably have played out in almost exactly the same way–because Milah certainly wouldn’t have been concerned with saving Rumple’s soul.
Exactly. I just responded in that other post the same thing. The seed of the show is Rumple’s love for his son, his desire to protect him at all cost and becoming the DO. The Dark One curse is the origin, then came Regina’s curse that brought them to Storybrooke. It all goes back to who the real core characters are: Rumple, Bae, Snow, Charming, Emma, Regina, and Henry. The Swan-Mills-Stiltskins. It’s this family what the show is about as a whole. You cannot take any of these out without having the story destroyed. Actually, the Blue Fairy is also a key element, one we don’t talk about enough. IF she hadn’t given Baelfire that bean, there wouldn’t have been Storybrooke. It was also her who gave Rumple the idea of a “terrible curse” to come to this world. #MakeBluetheSuperVillian2k17
If Blue isn’t secretly the mastermind and prime villain of this series, then Kitsowitz don’t know how to tell stories at all…
The Blue Fairy is protected under the hero code. That doesn’t make her a hero, like any of the so-called heroes, but she will never get what she deserves because of it.
I honestly sometimes wonder whether they watch their own show. Watching the Blue Fairy manipulate a child, without concern for the consequences, to take out the dark one was horrific. Then there’s her hypocrisy towards her own kind. How she treated Nova and Tinkerbell was nasty. Do they not realize how the Blue Fairy comes across?
It’s like they say with words that she is a good person, but then her actions say otherwise and it’s actions that count. There is this schism on the show between what they say someone is, and what they are based on what they do. It’s so obvious sometimes I swear it must be intentional but then they never seem to pick up on it.