Apparently today is a day of inspiration. I had iTunes on shuffle and this song came on and I heard the lyrics:
And how you gave your life in exchange for mine Sometimes I wonder why you even love me And why you ever chose to call me child And I remember just by your sacrifice I can say that I am yours and you are mine
Neal died without ever seeing Henry again. He died trying to get back to him, and protect him from Zelena, and Henry didn’t even remember him at the time. It’s so sad.
There’s a funny post on my dash right now. There’s a screencapped tweet – “Actually, Hook & Rumple are the reason for the show. Their feud set the whole plot in motion.” – and then a photo manip of Hook over the Evil Queen and Rumple over Snow, – I will destroy your happiness if it’s the last thing I do.
I didn’t want to hijack that post but I did want to respond to it. My first response, after laughing, was to think that actually the event that set the whole plot in motion, wasn’t Regina vs Snow.
That set a lot of things in motion but the Dark Curse, was the main plot point for season one (what led up to it, and then present day breaking of it). It wasn’t what season one was about, I would say that it was more about family, the relationship between Emma and Henry etc. but I’m getting off point.
The dark curse would never have happened if not for Rumple’s quest to reunite with Baelfire. Rumple manipulated everything, including tampering with Regina and Snow’s feud, to ensure everything led to the casting of the curse so he could get to the land without magic.
I would argue that what set the whole plot in motion was Rumple and Bae, a father’s search for his son.
Exactly–the entire basis of the show is rumple and Bae, and Rumple’s quest to save him–which led to both Regina’s birth and her ability to cast the curse, setting the Storybrooke part in motion.
Killy was a plot device at best–the thing that caused Bae to permanently lose his mother. But we saw from Devil’s Due that even when Milah was around, Rumle would go to almost anyy length to save Bae–and that she couldn’t be bothered. If Rumple and Milah had still been married at the time of Desperate Souls/the Return, events would probably have played out in almost exactly the same way–because Milah certainly wouldn’t have been concerned with saving Rumple’s soul.
Exactly. I just responded in that other post the same thing. The seed of the show is Rumple’s love for his son, his desire to protect him at all cost and becoming the DO. The Dark One curse is the origin, then came Regina’s curse that brought them to Storybrooke. It all goes back to who the real core characters are: Rumple, Bae, Snow, Charming, Emma, Regina, and Henry. The Swan-Mills-Stiltskins. It’s this family what the show is about as a whole. You cannot take any of these out without having the story destroyed. Actually, the Blue Fairy is also a key element, one we don’t talk about enough. IF she hadn’t given Baelfire that bean, there wouldn’t have been Storybrooke. It was also her who gave Rumple the idea of a “terrible curse” to come to this world. #MakeBluetheSuperVillian2k17
If Blue isn’t secretly the mastermind and prime villain of this series, then Kitsowitz don’t know how to tell stories at all…
Oh. Wait.
The Blue Fairy is protected under the hero code. That doesn’t make her a hero, like any of the so-called heroes, but she will never get what she deserves because of it.
I honestly sometimes wonder whether they watch their own show. Watching the Blue Fairy manipulate a child, without concern for the consequences, to take out the dark one was horrific. Then there’s her hypocrisy towards her own kind. How she treated Nova and Tinkerbell was nasty. Do they not realize how the Blue Fairy comes across?
It’s like they say with words that she is a good person, but then her actions say otherwise and it’s actions that count. There is this schism on the show between what they say someone is, and what they are based on what they do. It’s so obvious sometimes I swear it must be intentional but then they never seem to pick up on it.
If anyone ever doubts how important Baelfire/Neal is, or that he still has fans well … on my blog the most notes I ever had was 18. My post about how important Neal was, got over 100 within 24 hours. Now I know that’s only a microcosm but I was fairly impressed.
I love Neal and I’m glad a lot of other people still do 🙂 I only wish he could be brought back.
Before I continue on the actual meta I’d like to say that I created this because I had this idea, I saw the clues and because I believe Ouat is using the circular narrative, meaning season 6 will resemble a lot season 2 (and have elements from early season three and season one. If you notice, season 5 was resembling season 3 and at the very end it tapped into late season 2). In under no circumstances I want to toy with anyone’s emotions (I already did with my own but wth) so if you continue reading this, please bear in mind that it’s just things I notice. I might be right, I might be wrong (Tell yourselves I’m wrong and read this just for the heck of it)
I love this and I want this to be true. It could even happen possibly because didn’t Michael Raymond James recent show just get cancelled? Making him available.
However, one big roadblock in the way. When Neal died, wasn’t there a body? If he had somehow been magically poofed to another realm, wouldn’t he have died a bit like Griff did in the cells, by being surrounded by magical smoke and then disappearing? I still think that death was fishy, I thought the green smoke was a sign of Zelena involvement and I’m getting off topic.
So roadblock one – the body. Roadblock two – the author was imprisoned in the book at the time. It was said on screen by the apprentice or the sorcerer in the smoky cauldron, that while he was trapped he could only record and not change. So even if the author powers are seemingly pretty powerful and he could make it so Neal could leave a body, and respawn elsewhere, the author couldn’t at the time it happened.
I love all the parallels you found though. I do think that is brilliant. All that subtext really should lead to somewhere and wow you noticed a lot! I never notice half of this stuff, it’s very impressive. You got any other theory posts? I might have to have a look.
Even if this doesn’t happen on screen, I might just decide that it happens anyway because Neal deserved better and I want him back.
I was thinking about the finale this morning, about how it didn’t make sense that they found the holy grail ‘end of magic’ right when they wanted it. Why was it in New York? How had it even got there from the Enchanted Forest? What was with Neal having this quest to destroy magic?
Then it hit me!
Tamara was Neal’s fiance – and she wanted to destroy magic. That was what she thought she was doing when she working for Pan (aka the home office), she thought that was what the mission was.
Given they were together any notes on destroying magic, left in Neal’s apartment, could have been hers. The holy grail in New York, could have been found anywhere in the world, it could have been tossed through by a magic bean by someone in the past terrified that magic could be destroyed. It wound up in New York because that was where Tamara was maybe.
So why did Henry say that Neal had wanted to destroy magic? That Neal had been in New York searching for a way to destroy magic. That sounds pretty irrefutable right? It must have been Neal and Tamara was just a coincidence, weird how they had the same goal but neither of them knew that.
August told Neal about the dark curse, how it brought everyone from their land to this one – the land without magic. The curse didn’t bring magic, that was never on the cards until Rumple threw the true love potion down the well and magic came to Storybrooke. Magic didn’t need to be destroyed, because as far as anyone was aware – there was no magic in the … land WITHOUT magic!
Neal and Henry couldn’t have spent all that much time together. I’m thinking a week or two at the most between arriving back in Storybrooke and Neal getting shot and falling through the portal back to the Enchanted Forest. I know time on the show is kinda fluid and it’s hard to tell, but with how fast stuff seems to happen it might have only been a few days.
Back in the Enchanted Forest Neal (Bae back then) would have searched for a way to destroy magic, because it was magic that had changed his papa. When he got the bean to go to the land without magic, that completed his quest. I know it was ‘canon’ because Henry said it on screen but people do get confused, misinterpret or mis-remember.
If Henry was thinking about destroying magic and then remembered his dad saying that he’d tried the same. It’s not a big leap. His dad meant New York and then the more stuff he found, the more he thought he was right in what he remembered. I don’t know, it’s just a theory.
