Sudden Ouat question

sarashouldbestudying:

So, it’s pretty obvious that whenever there’s a problem everybody rushes to Gold demanding help and whining when it’s time to pay the price. 

My question is: why don’t they just go to the Blue Fairy? She has light magic and doesn’t ask for prices, why don’t they go to her?

I know that the actual reason is “Rumplestiltskin is a main character and is portrayed by Robert Carlyle, the Blue Fairy is not”, but I’d like to find a reason that makes sense in the story.

Is it because they know that Blue is actually useless? Or because they don’t want her to point out that what they need done is not good, so they just go to Rumple so that they can blame him for it? Is it because even the heroes realize that she’s shady af???

Please, help me find an answer!

They went to her sometimes. Like she was the one that got the tree for the wardrobe for Emma to evacuate through. However, mostly I think they don’t go to her because she doesn’t/can’t help.

Say what you will about Rumple but even the heroes acknowledge that he knows how to take care of business, and get stuff done. It’s a bit like.
– Blue’s the one that they would turn when they wanted everything nice and clean, and it didn’t necessarily have to succeed.
– Rumple’s the guy to send in when they want the problem solved, no mistakes, just dealt with.

Like I can just imagine Blue looking all sad, and saying that fairy magic has it’s limits, and that she can only do so much. Hear that enough times and what’s the point in the side trip to the fairy? Let’s just skip to the end and call in the guy that we know can take care of it.

To be honest my headcanon is that the heroes don’t even realize they are doing it. Especially these days in Storybrooke because they are out of the habit of turning to the fairies. They hide away in the convent and are never there when the shit hits the fan. I think actually didn’t they say that they needed fairy dust to do magic?

I remember in 2×01 Broken, the Blue fairy saying “it was complicated” now. So maybe they can’t actually do much because either there is no more fairy dust left in the mines, or nobody is bothering to mine it anymore. If they are just like regular people, no power these days, then that would make sense too.

5b Rumbelle Statistics + S5 And Overall Statistics

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5b Rumbelle Statistics + S5 And Overall Statistics

freifraufischer:

Lessons the Charmings did not retain from the Frozen arc.

You can’t be a hero if you are just correcting your own mistake. If you endangered someone, you can’t claim the reward for saving them. Elsa knew this. It’s not exactly a rocket science concept, just common sense.

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Does that make Captain Charming true love as well?

#i don’t know why i did this#i saw the gif of david shoving hook and the evil idea took root#it was a stupid test emma would have saved anyone

“You can have more than one.”

They should definitely have that dinner. That would be so awesome, right up there with the incredibly awkward scene with Rumple, Emma and Milah “so you’ve been with my former lover and my son?” because this is one screwed up family tree and they need to hang a lampshade on it.

#I want Rumple and Henry scenes#they are the only remaining gold men

Rumbaby God Parents!

violetfaust:

still-searching47:

betsypaige22:

grace52373:

Emilie suggested Snow and Charming and I wish someone told her what Snow did because I doubt she would think they would be good God parents after putting Belle and her baby in danger so here is my list of better God Parents for the Rumbaby!

Ruby and Dorothy

Archie

Leroy

Granny

Mulan

I can’t think of anymore. Any suggestions or do you think I picked some decent ones?

Also petition for the so-called heroes especially Snow to get what they deserve 2k16!

I’m not going to criticize Emilie for her answer to this question……..but anyway…..

No Ruby – and not Dorothy when Belle has no idea who she is.

I’m Jewish and we don’t have Godparents, so I’m not even sure what responsibilities they have. I think Archie is really the only good choice because he cares about both Rumple and Belle whereas, as much as I love Granny and Leroy, they don’t like Rumple.

People choose godparents for different reasons. On this show I think godparents who would take care of the kid if something happened to Rumple and Belle would be a good idea. There’s a lot of getting sucked into portals going around.

The problem with picking someone is that nobody on the show really seems to like Rumple or view him as anything other than the big bad evil dark one which is so unfair. He’s so much more than that.

Also another problem is picking someone who will stay in the same realm as the kid – way too much realm hopping going on.

I agree that I think Archie would be a good choice if only because he would treat the child fairly. Whatever his views on Rumple or Belle, he would be good to the kid because it’s innocent. He wouldn’t blame the kid for the ‘darkness’ of their father.

I also think Mulan would be a reasonable choice if we could get her in the same realm. So far we’ve seen her as pretty non-judgmental. I think she would protect the kid, giving practical protection, advice and support, as a counter point to Archie’s care and understanding. She’s so unflappable, she just takes things as they come and she is good with people as we saw with her training of Merida.

Now three is usually traditional but thinking of a third is difficult. I think it has to be someone from the Charming clan. In event of catastrophe Archie would be the day to day guardian with Mulan a close second. However, given the position the Charming’s have, I think it would be a mistake to sideline them. Far better to give them an interest in the child.

On that basis which of clan Charming would be the best choice? I’m going to say Henry. I know he’s young but it’s purely an emotional pull. He is family, he’s be the kids nephew. If he cares for the kid, there’s nothing clan Charming wouldn’t do for Henry so they would – hopefully – then protect the kid.

Yup so in summary my picks would be Archie, Mulan and Henry.

I actually do not think Snowing would be a bad choice, provided they stopped leaving babies while gallivanting in other realms and were willing to treat the Rumbambino as a human rather than imp spawn.

However my first choice will always be Jefferson. He might be a WEE bit unstable but he’s one of Rumple’s few friends, he seems to like Belle, and he’s an incredibly devoted dad who will do anything for his child. Plus Grace would make a great big sister.

I forgot about Jefferson!

This is what I get for not double checking. Although Jefferson was only on screen a couple of times. We saw that he worked for Rumple but was there any on screen evidence he was a friend?I know it’s common in fanfic and I tend to believe it because Jefferson is cool. I do like Jefferson.

He is a good dad. Much like Rumple he did what he had to so that Grace could have a better life. Anyway, Jefferson is a possibility which takes the number of potential candidates to four. Unless I’ve forgotten someone else.

My rationale mostly was who would be responsible? I just don’t think that is Snowing. I’m not saying they are bad people. It’s just for one they show a scandalous disregard for anyone that isn’t their own (Maleficent’s kid for example) and two they frequently abandon their own kids for the greater good.

I read this Harry Potter oneshot once where James and Lily asked Peter to be godfather and not Sirius. When Peter asked why James said “we don’t need someone who would die for Harry, we need someone who would live for him. We need someone who would change his nappies, soothe his nightmares at 3am, help him with his homework when he’s older etc.”

It was that kinda thinking I was trying to apply. Who would look beyond the kids parentage and give them a stable home should Rumple and Belle not be able to do that. Who would put the kid first?

Scenes in episodes

Chalk this up as something I secretly suspected, but never really noticed, when I was watching. There is a definite formula going on.

I just took three random episodes and totaled the scenes. They all had 24.

1×12 Skin Deep had 9 FTL flashback scenes, 14 in present day Storybrooke and 1 montage which flipped back between FTL and Storybrooke.

4×12 Darkness on the edge of town had 5 FTL flashback scenes, 6 with Rumple in New York and then the Queen’s of Darkness scenes, 12 in Storybrooke and 1 montage of many different Storybrooke scenes.

5×01 The Dark Swan had 9 in the enchanted forest, 14 in Storybrooke, 1 FTL flashback and 1 flashback to Emma as a kid.

Aside from there being a total of 24, there’s another pattern that Storybrooke always has the most scenes. Obviously I only checked these but I’m wondering if there were more FTL flashbacks in the early days, or if the flashback scenes are longer later so it’s the same amount just split differently.

It’s a little interesting.

Neal in season 5 (and 6?)

heddagab:

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(Wake up love. It’s your time to shine!)

Before I continue on the actual meta I’d like to say that I created this because I had this idea, I saw the clues and because I believe Ouat is using the circular narrative, meaning season 6 will resemble a lot season 2 (and have elements from early season three and season one. If you notice, season 5 was resembling season 3 and at the very end it tapped into late season 2). In under no circumstances I want to toy with anyone’s emotions (I already did with my own but wth) so if you continue reading this, please bear in mind that it’s just things I notice. I might be right, I might be wrong (Tell yourselves I’m wrong and read this just for the heck of it)

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I love this and I want this to be true. It could even happen possibly because didn’t Michael Raymond James recent show just get cancelled? Making him available.

However, one big roadblock in the way. When Neal died, wasn’t there a body? If he had somehow been magically poofed to another realm, wouldn’t he have died a bit like Griff did in the cells, by being surrounded by magical smoke and then disappearing? I still think that death was fishy, I thought the green smoke was a sign of Zelena involvement and I’m getting off topic.

So roadblock one – the body. Roadblock two – the author was imprisoned in the book at the time. It was said on screen by the apprentice or the sorcerer in the smoky cauldron, that while he was trapped he could only record and not change. So even if the author powers are seemingly pretty powerful and he could make it so Neal could leave a body, and respawn elsewhere, the author couldn’t at the time it happened.

I love all the parallels you found though. I do think that is brilliant. All that subtext really should lead to somewhere and wow you noticed a lot! I never notice half of this stuff, it’s very impressive. You got any other theory posts? I might have to have a look.

Even if this doesn’t happen on screen, I might just decide that it happens anyway because Neal deserved better and I want him back.

Watching this after 2×05 The Doctor, it makes so much more sense. She singled Jefferson out.

She abandoned him in Wonderland, when it would have been so easy to have taken a nameless knight and then just killed him. Alternatively her dad was in the box, he might not have counted according to the hat, she could have nabbed some food and restored him back in the Enchanted Forest and they all could have gone home.

Then when the curse hit Jefferson was taken to Storybrooke. He was forced to remember when no-one else in town did, and he was still separated from his daughter because she had no idea who he was.

However, Jefferson is the one that offered her the hope that Frankenstein could revive Daniel. He was the one that gave her the idea, and then did what was necessary for it to happen. He brought Frankenstein to her, that butcher, who failed and essentially made her relive Daniel’s death.

He made her a promise which he then broke.

He stripped Regina of the last of her hope, he was the face that tipped her over the edge into truly becoming the evil queen. In turn Regina then stripped Jefferson of what mattered most – his family.

Now Regina made her own choices but at this point in her life she blamed everyone else for everything. I don’t blame Jefferson at all, he was just working under orders from Rumple anyway.

I wonder if Regina ever discovered this particular manipulation of Rumplestiltskin’s? That could perhaps be the reason why they went from mentor/student to the enemies they were in Skin Deep. It’s too bad Sebastian Stan is now a bigtime Marvel movie star, because we could do with Jefferson back on the show.

freifraufischer:

Regina Mills is one of the greatest magical practitioners of her age.  Famous for using a sleeping curse.  She knows what he needs.  She leans forward… but stops herself.  Because while she may love him she’s certain he doesn’t love her.  After all how could he.  She’s the Evil Queen, rotten to the core, and she’s never been good enough for any of the people she’s loved.  Never been good enough to save them.  Never been good enough to save herself.

Urk, oh wow I’d not noticed that before but – so true! Oh man Regina’s expression is killing me, talk about heartbreaking. This makes so much sense. It fits with her character and yeah, wow. The OP really hit the nail on the head, so on point and really insightful.

It’s like one of those pivotal moments isn’t it? The sort that spawn the ‘what if?’ questions. What if she had pushed aside her fear and her self-loathing for just one second and tried true loves kiss on Henry?

Would the result have been failure because deep down she didn’t believe in herself? Would the result have been failure because her self-loathing was right and at this point Henry didn’t love her? (I don’t believe this one, she’s his mother and Henry always loved her even if they weren’t always close). Or what if the result had been success and it had woken him? What would the consequences of that have been?

A true loves kiss between Regina and Henry in the season one finale wouldn’t have broken the dark curse. However, Emma had her revelation and now believed. So the next challenge would have been trying to work out how to break the curse. What would that have meant for Rumple and amnesiac Belle? What would that have meant for dragon Maleficent and the vial of true love potion? What would that have meant for David attempting to leave town? (no-one can leave town – bad things happen).

Also to bring this back to Regina, as this is a Regina post, what would that have meant for her and Henry? She would have had indisputable proof in the strength of their mother/son bond. Henry would also have had the same confidence boost, he doubted that Regina truly loved him at this point. Would he have gone back closer to his adopted mother? After all, in the show he moved in with the Charmings and I don’t think he returned to live with Regina full time until 5A when Emma was the dark one.

Has there been any fics about this? Because I really don’t need another canon divergent what if WIP …