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Hiatus Flashback:  Dopey 5.02 The Price

The last we will ever see of this character, who was tragically treed and then forgotten about on the outskirts of town. He was later chopped down for public safety reasons. Regina is militant about infrastructure and trees sprouting in the middle of the road is a big no-no.

Actually I figured that the Maine transportation people cut him down.  Since he’s on the other side of the town line someone driving down a rural road ran straight into a tree in the middle of the road.

Good point. And he has to be gone at this point. Since then Belle has driven in and out of town. Rumple has driven out of town. Emma and Regina have driven out of town. Henry and Violet have left town. And Emma, Regina, Henry, Violet, Snow, Charming, Hook and Zelena have all driven back in to town. No mention of the giant tree blocking the road.

Actually the tree was only on one side the road, so they could have driven on the other side.

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Plus the third dark curse is still in effect. Belle could drive out because she had the pouch of magic dust. Everyone else could drive out because Storybrooke didn’t have magic at the time. However, now magic has been restored, until the curse is broken, no-one can cross the line again, otherwise the road truly would get blocked 🙂

I reckon when the third dark curse gets broken, they will just show the footage of Dopey transforming in reverse because the actor isn’t on the show anymore. That would be a way round it, providing they remember that he’s a tree and about the third dark curse that is …

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still-searching47:

I know some people don’t like spoilers and I’ve no idea how the people that follow me feel about them. So I’m not going to reblog anything spoiler related. That being said I feel like commenting on something I keep reading so I’m going to just put that under the cut.

Warning, this will contain talk of spoilers for Once Upon a Time season 6.

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In light of the recent spoiler picture I’m going to reblog this. Got a few things to add as well. Spoilers under the cut.

I said in the first bit that I didn’t really like to speculate when there was so little to go on. I know there have been spoilers about Rumple and Belle arguing and it all looks like it might be sad. I’m not worried at all for a couple of reasons a) I still have no idea how it’s actually going to play out and context is everything. b) I can headcanon anything to make sense. c) one episode isn’t the end, until the credits roll on the finale anything can happen.

Honestly I look on all the amazing Rumbelle moments and I think about all the awesome storylines they have. Did they suck in terms of Rumbelle being happy together? Yup. But stuff happened, memorable stuff even if it was painful. I love every storyline they’ve had, even if I do occasionally wish the angst fairy would go and bother another couple for a while.

Anyway, back to my theory about time jump. This is just me, talking out of my arse, and I could be completely wrong. Since I came up with the theory more spoilers have been released with maybe more evidence, and not just today’s picture of Zelena with not so baby Robyn.

– floof and no floof filming e.g. directly after season 5 and then … time skip. The time skip would allow them to write in a big change like that. I know on stargate sg1, Amanda Tapping wanted to grow her hair and they woudn’t let her because each season picked up off a cliffhanger. Eventually she managed it because there was a time jump.

– now they could just be filming out of order, or they could be filming flashbacks and present day. Thus explaining Belle being in her season 5 clothes, and then being in other clothes.

– Belle looks very not pregnant in her other clothes, maybe (and this will not be popular) because she’s already had the baby.

So yeah I’m still thinking that there is going to be one hell of a time jump at the end of the first episode. Then for at least the next half season we’ll flashback to the “missing year” and then we’ll move forward again.

I know Adam just confirmed that there was “no time jump” but I flat out don’t trust him. I remember reading an interview where he flat out said that Rumple wouldn’t have magic again. Then … hello dark one, thus fulfilling my theory that Rumple would become the dark one again. I knew he would because if he wasn’t, then the status quo on the show would change and they can’t have that.

So no matter what Adam says, this is going to be my theory until it gets disproved by a more reputable source. Is that mean? Probably but he doesn’t exactly have a great track record.

This might be a dumb question..

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still-searching47:

deariedoo:

redqueenofdragons:

But how come Hades was able to go to OZ but he had trouble going to the Living World? This makes zero sense to me. Maybe they did explain it but I’m not watching 5b again. If anybody knows that will be awesome!

I would like to know as well, lol. I admit to not even half paying attention to most episodes of 5b (i can clearly recall the events of maybe 2 episodes) 

I don’t think that they did explain. However, I had headcanon that not all the realms were open to Hades, his magic was limited in scope in the living world and he could only stay for a very limited time. This is why he suddenly disappeared on Zelena during their date, because like Cinderella, his time was up and he had to return to the underworld.

That’s just my theory though. I don’t recall the show ever explaining it.

That’s actually a very good theory! I like your head canon! Lol it’s sad that the show never explains anything!

Thanks 🙂 If the show doesn’t explain it, or if something on the show doesn’t make sense, then I have headcanon for it.

To be honest I don’t actually mind filling in the blanks. I think I actually like the show more because there are unanswered questions, it feels like potential and my favorite shows are always the ones with the most potential. I suspect that is an unusual opinion though.

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There are all these gifsets on my dash of that heartbreaking moment where Belle is in the hospital and throws the chipped cup and smashes it.

That reminded me of when I first saw that episode, my jaw just dropped. I don’t think I’ve been as gobsmacked by the sheer insanity of characters actions since I watched the SGU episode Divided. That was pretty mind-boggling just “why??” in parts too.

I would love to write a fix-it fic of “In the name of the brother” where everyone actually utilizes some common sense, especially in dealing with Belle.

I mean she’s upset and confused and they are just dragging her around, telling her she’s crazy for what she saw. Nobody takes the time to explain what happened, or to explain anything. Plus how they all treated Gold – separating him from Belle. I suppose it’s no surprise, they were just showing what they truly thought of him even back then. However, it just made the situation 10x worse.

I’m approaching this episode in my re-watch. I actually began the re-watch during the hiatus, I stopped it for 5B and haven’t restarted it – oops. I think I got to the 5th episode – The Doctor. Although I might have watched that, I forget to be honest. This show has got into my head, I remember it so clearly, that it’s hard to remember what I’ve watched twice and what I’ve only seen just the once.

When I get to it, I might write a small oneshot. I just want them to show Belle a little bit of respect. Just slow it down and actually talk to her. She looked so bewildered and scared and it was so unnecessary.

Hang on a second

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Has anyone else noticed this continuity error? We were told in S5 that Dark Ones don’t sleep. So what was up with Gold having a nightmare in the ‘Lacey’ episode?

The writers don’t remember their own rules and add new ones when it’s convenient for them, no matter what’s been shown in the past. This is why people continually come back from them dead. This is why portals are easier to open than a bag of chips. I know there are more, but they’re not coming to mind.

I have always thought it was more that dark one’s don’t need to sleep, but they can if they want/are able to do so. Therefore after twenty-eight cursed years as Gold, Rumple probably was in the habit of sleeping everyday. He kept it up perhaps because it made him feel more human. That would be a good thing for both his developing relationship with Belle, and for reconnecting with Bae (Neal) when he found him.

So Rumple could sleep and have a nightmare, and still mean that “dark one’s don’t sleep” is true. That’s my headcanon anyway. It seemed to make sense to me.

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Rumbellers & Beauties– has there been any fandom discussion about the possibility that Maurice is not Belle’s biological father? It certainly would explain a lot, don’t you think?

still-searching47 answered: Do you have someone in mind then? To be honest I think Belle isn’t like Maurice, because she’s very much her mother’s daughter.

No, I don’t have anyone in mind. I mean, we know so little about Belle’s mother that I don’t even want to hazard a guess. 

I only asked the question b/c I was thinking about Maurice and his relationship to Belle due to the OUaT Positivity Project. Looking ahead, the prompt for Day 23 is “Father” and Maurice has been such an awful father to Belle, that I was trying to figure out what I could say about him that would be positive. Which then made me wonder WHY he’s so awful to her. I mean, what kind of father refuses to even try waking his child from a sleeping curse? And it occurred to me that if he’s not her bio father–and has known all along–that would certainly help explain his behavior toward her. It could even explain the TLK refusal….he won’t try b/c he knows he doesn’t love Belle and a kiss from him won’t work. 

There’s been some speculation (wishful thinking probably, but let’s go with it for the moment) that Belle’s mother is still alive and she’ll see her again in S6. If OUaT does bring Colette back, it’d make for a very interesting storyline for Belle to not only be reunited with her mother, but find out the truth about her father–if there’s a hidden truth to be told. 

Some fathers are like that though. They are selfish, they want what they want. Some care in their own way but others don’t even care that much. Fathers can be biological or not. It’s not genetics that make someone a good father. So Maurice can be biological and be the way he is. I think Maurice does love Belle, but he loves a version of her that doesn’t exist – his ideal version.

I don’t think he accepts her for who she is, nor supports her choices. He thinks that he knows best. I daresay that if confronted about “why wouldn’t you wake her?” he would be genuinely confused as to what he had done wrong. In his mind he would be doing Belle a service in his ultimatum. He would think that made him a good father, because was looking out for her best interests. However, what he thinks is best for her, probably isn’t what Belle would think is best.

To be honest I don’t know what you could say about Maurice that was favorable either. Unless it was a backhanded compliment, like he thinks he is helping but he’s really not. Maybe, he only tries the same trick once, like sending her across the townline (only tried once). He did give her away at her wedding which I’m sure meant a lot to Belle. He was there whether he approved or not.

Rumbellers who still watch the show and still remain positive

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How do you do it? I’m being sincere.

I want to be positive. I adore Rumbelle. I love Bobby. I love Emilie.

But I can’t stand the writers. Or the writing. 99% of what I see on my screen infuriates me. Spoilers just make me angrier.

But I love Rumbelle. How do I enjoy that when I only get 1% of what I want? If that.

Booze

Fanfic

Bobbys eyes

All three plus a side of denial. 

Headcanon

I appear to have written a bit of an essay, on how headcanon works for me – oops. Basically it’s just headcanon though. If I can explain it, I can accept it.

Nothing has happened on the show thus far, that I haven’t managed to explain to myself, so that it makes sense. I created an image of who the characters were in my head, back in season one/two and that’s fixed. I make everything I watch consistent with the characters personalities. I give them motives, reasons. I link back to other stuff in canon. Every time they come up with a new flashback, I fit it in the timeline I’ve built in my mind, of when stuff happened.

I basically create my own coherent narrative. When it out and out doesn’t make sense, I have to do some mental athletics but there’s a way round most things. If it makes sense in my head, then I’m ok with it. The writers own the show on the screen, they don’t own the show in my head.

I read spoilers but I don’t worry about them. Without context it’s hard to know anything for sure. I find it interesting to be honest because obviously I generate theories based on what information I have. I then get to see how far off base I was. I write long rambling blog posts dissecting motives, and speculating on the impact decisions will make on other characters/events.

The show gives me raw material. It is pure potential. Sure, sometimes, it feels a bit like I’ve slipped into an alternate reality because what happens, just doesn’t match up with the characters. That’s when the mental athletics start. We only see a fraction of events on screen. I fill in the other 99%.

I love the show because of it’s potential, because of the rich deep characters and the fascinating world. It’s only 40 minutes an episode, and that is split between a massive cast. Even if the writing was perfect, I’d be adding a ton. It’s what I do. I watch and I imagine.

So I’m positive about the show. Sometimes it’s the canon they gave me, not the canon I would have liked e.g. when they killed off Neal. I watch a show and I suspend disbelief, I go for immersion in as much as I ‘believe it’s real’. Obviously it’s not, but I can hardly complain about the writing, because that’s what happened, those are the characters.

I make it work. If I get angry, I get angry at the characters for the choices they make, and then the anger usually stops because once I understand someone and why they did it, then I can’t be angry anymore. With understanding comes acceptance, for me anyway.

I’m used to liking secondary characters. Hell I made it through five seasons of Alias and I couldn’t stand Sydney or Vaughn but I absolutely loved Jack, Irina, Sark, Marshall, Weiss etc. I accept whatever tiny little morsels I get from the show. Do I wish it was more? Hell yeah! But, I work with whatever I get.

I’m with this show until the end.

britishkitten27:

Beautifully said! (Canon divergent) Headcanons are definitely life-savers. If you make them strong enough and air-tight to a degree, they can easily become more believable to you than the actual show. This is how I have survived two and a half seasons of OUaT and the last season of The Flash. Excellent point, @still-searching47 !!

Oh thanks!

I’m not sure what you mean by canon divergent. I would describe my headcanons as canon-compliant because they don’t contradict canon. I suppose they are canon-divergent in a way because the show has never said one way or another, about those things. It’s like canon-extra. Wow, terms are hard heh. Can we get a dictionary? 🙂

Basically in my mind so long as the show doesn’t contradict the explanation I come up with (and if it does, I create a new one), then my headcanon might be true. That’s what I meant by making canon work for me, I work with it, to make the canon make sense. It bolts on, doesn’t replace. I believe in the actual show, not an alternate version.

Although I do create alternate versions as well – I love canon divergence! 🙂 This show is filled with moments where you can go “what if?” and then speculate about how stuff played out differently. I love doing that, playing cause and effect. I watch a lot of TV but there’s only a handful of shows that I think about after the episode ends, only a few that have enough depth and potential to stay with me. This show is nowhere near perfect but it has that depth, which makes it my favorite currently airing show.

whitesheepcbd:

@still-searching47, I absolutely love your approach to it. The showrunners may have created this show, but they don’t exclusively own it. Not anymore. As soon as they put it out there for us (the audience) to consume, it became ours. There’s a quote about writing that I heard somewhere, that says something like: ‘The writer only writes half the story. The other half is written by the reader.’ (Don’t remember who said that or I’d give credit.) I think it’s a very similar situation with TV shows, especially the ones with uneven characterization or problematic plots, like OUaT.

I’d also like to add that when you not only watch a show, but you’re also involved in the fandom–like I expect that everyone reading this is–then the show canon is only a fraction of the experience. Not only b/c you can fill in the rest of the story in your own head, but also b/c the show experience extends to discussions with other fans, the wait each week for script teases and sneak peeks, reading fanfic and appreciating fanart, and the friends we all make b/c we have this show in common. All of that combines to make the total fandom experience, and keeps me enjoying OUaT and Rumbelle no matter how much damage the writers do.

This ^^ just this ^^ 🙂

You just said what I tried to say, in a far more eloquent and succinct fashion. I just liked the post but I’m reblogging as well because yes this ^^.

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I know Stargate SG1 gif, stay with me.

What were Emma and everyone terrified about when Greg smashed into town? That he would see magic and the secret of Storybrooke would be revealed to the world. After all, magic being real is kinda a big deal. The revelation that fairytale characters aren’t just in books, I’m thinking it would be like discovering aliens are real for instance.

However, make something fictional and even if people hear rumors about it, they will just laugh. They’ll say “that’s a TV show, not real life.” and they won’t believe whatever the crazy story is. On SG1 they had Wormhole Xtreme, to help provide cover for the Stargate program.

What if, we have Once Upon a Time to provide cover for the real Storybrooke? Obviously, I know we don’t, I’m talking a fic idea.

Someone, sold the idea to the networks and they ran with it. They changed some things, basically pick whatever storyline went in a direction you didn’t like, because they knew better what viewers would want.

Now, no-one on SG1 was offended by how their alter egos were portrayed. There was a lot of eye rolling at how unrealistic it was, but they took it in the spirit it was intended. Plus, it was the show within a show concept, which enabled them to joke about some missteps the show had made in the past, or make fun of sci-fi tropes etc. It was quite funny.

I’m just picturing movie night in Storybrooke, where the new season is about to start. They crowd around the TV and fight over the popcorn. They are all bickering over what has happened in the past, and their pet theories about what happens next. Teasing one another about how their alter egos do stuff (either because it’s accurate, or because it’s not). Basically just pure lighthearted family banter and bonding time.

Family fluff basically. No roasting of the writers for their choices, just showing the ‘reality’ vs the show, and everyone having fun with it.

I have read some fics with this sort of concept. However, they all had the characters taking offense to how they were portrayed on the show because it had gotten out of hand when they weren’t looking etc. I’m thinking something a lot more fun than that. Nobody takes offense, it’s all very positive and happy. I like fluff heh.

I am so tempted to write this but – so many fic ideas, so little time!

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I know some people don’t like spoilers and I’ve no idea how the people that follow me feel about them. So I’m not going to reblog anything spoiler related. That being said I feel like commenting on something I keep reading so I’m going to just put that under the cut.

Warning, this will contain talk of spoilers for Once Upon a Time season 6.

There’s some filming pictures showing Belle and Hook at the docks and maybe they filmed a scene together. I have seen a lot of comments saying that it’s a dream and there are good reasons for that.

1) They are filming the first couple of episodes so it’s still early in the season. Belle was in another realm, under a sleeping curse at the end of the season five finale.

2) She’s wearing the same dress but not the same coat, she appeared to be wearing in the underworld.

To be honest I don’t really remember the dress because the coat covered everything but I’m very willing to take people’s word on that. I don’t tend to notice stuff with the wardrobe much.

Anyway, my point is maybe Belle is awake and back in Storybrooke in the premiere/episode 2. It is entirely possible because of – Camelot.

Six weeks passed in show time, between the season 4 finale and the present day Storybrooke events of 5A. They decided to show that 6 week time in flashbacks throughout 5A because the Once people are addicted to flashbacks and don’t like to tell the story in a linear fashion.

I know that they said that the action would pick up seconds after the season 5 finale. Maybe it does. The action picked up seconds after the season 4 finale but by the end of the premiere, they had skipped 6 weeks.

This is just a theory and I am probably wrong. To be honest this is why I don’t generally place a lot of stock in spoilers. In my opinion without context, it’s impossible to really understand what is going on. Generally speaking I prefer not to rule anything out.

However, what if the season premiere picks up seconds after the season 5 finale? Some stuff happens, maybe Hyde gets control of all the magic in town (hence why we see people sword fighting) and essentially he owns the place. The heroes try and fight back but if Hyde isn’t killing people then they are just fighting for control. It would be better to cautious, bide their time and then ‘retake the kingdom’, like Snow and David did to King George and Regina.

They could flashforward a year and then that’s where things pick up in episode 2. Belle and Rumple return to Storybrooke. Belle is wearing the same dress because she didn’t exactly pack for a trip, and her steampunk clothing doesn’t fit with Storybrooke. Then they would be able to do all manner of flashbacks throughout the season of what happened in the missing year.

It would sort of help the Jared being so much older than Henry problem. It would help them avoid all manner of messiness of Regina just being ‘over’ Robin so quickly, of Zelena being a bonded part of the group, of Emma and Hook getting married etc. because finally some time would have passed. Right now as it stands everything has happened in such a short time period, there’s not been time for feelings to develop/change etc.

I think that could work. Like I said I’m probably wrong but for now, without any other information, this is my theory. With what little we know, we could develop a ton of different theories. Until september 25th, we’re not going to know for certain how anything will turn out.

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still-searching47:

There’s a funny post on my dash right now. There’s a screencapped tweet – “Actually, Hook & Rumple are the reason for the show. Their feud set the whole plot in motion.” – and then a photo manip of Hook over the Evil Queen and Rumple over Snow, – I will destroy your happiness if it’s the last thing I do.

I didn’t want to hijack that post but I did want to respond to it. My first response, after laughing, was to think that actually the event that set the whole plot in motion, wasn’t Regina vs Snow.

That set a lot of things in motion but the Dark Curse, was the main plot point for season one (what led up to it, and then present day breaking of it). It wasn’t what season one was about, I would say that it was more about family, the relationship between Emma and Henry etc. but I’m getting off point.

The dark curse would never have happened if not for Rumple’s quest to reunite with Baelfire. Rumple manipulated everything, including tampering with Regina and Snow’s feud, to ensure everything led to the casting of the curse so he could get to the land without magic.

I would argue that what set the whole plot in motion was Rumple and Bae, a father’s search for his son.

Originally posted by stay-fear-less

Originally posted by swanthievery

Exactly–the entire basis of the show is rumple and Bae, and Rumple’s quest to save him–which led to both Regina’s birth and her ability to cast the curse, setting the Storybrooke part in motion.

Killy was a plot device at best–the thing that caused Bae to permanently lose his mother. But we saw from Devil’s Due that even when Milah was around, Rumle would go to almost anyy length to save Bae–and that she couldn’t be bothered. If Rumple and Milah had still been married at the time of Desperate Souls/the Return, events would probably have played out in almost exactly the same way–because Milah certainly wouldn’t have been concerned with saving Rumple’s soul.

Exactly. I just responded in that other post the same thing. The seed of the show is Rumple’s love for his son, his desire to protect him at all cost and becoming the DO. The Dark One curse is the origin, then came Regina’s curse that brought them to Storybrooke. It all goes back to who the real core characters are: Rumple, Bae, Snow, Charming, Emma, Regina, and Henry. The Swan-Mills-Stiltskins. It’s this family what the show is about as a whole. You cannot take any of these out without having the story destroyed. Actually, the Blue Fairy is also a key element, one we don’t talk about enough. IF she hadn’t given Baelfire that bean, there wouldn’t have been Storybrooke. It was also her who gave Rumple the idea of a “terrible curse” to come to this world. #MakeBluetheSuperVillian2k17

If Blue isn’t secretly the mastermind and prime villain of this series, then Kitsowitz don’t know how to tell stories at all…

Oh. Wait.

The Blue Fairy is protected under the hero code. That doesn’t make her a hero, like any of the so-called heroes, but she will never get what she deserves because of it.

I honestly sometimes wonder whether they watch their own show. Watching the Blue Fairy manipulate a child, without concern for the consequences, to take out the dark one was horrific. Then there’s her hypocrisy towards her own kind. How she treated Nova and Tinkerbell was nasty. Do they not realize how the Blue Fairy comes across?

It’s like they say with words that she is a good person, but then her actions say otherwise and it’s actions that count. There is this schism on the show between what they say someone is, and what they are based on what they do. It’s so obvious sometimes I swear it must be intentional but then they never seem to pick up on it.