@Julie

I know they butted heads a lot, but I found B’Elanna and Seven to have a much healthier dynamic 💅

Yeah true. Thus far all I’ve seen is B’Elanna being mad at her BUT what I like the most is that she explains *why*. She tells Seven straight up don’t do that because, or you are rude and this is why people don’t like it try saying please etc. B’Elanna doesn’t just get mad and leave Seven wondering why, and actually she helps her with the explaining.

@Julie

Like that one time where B’Elanna calls her out in Astrometrics “… You’re.. rude.” It was just so upfront, and Seven accepted it from her

Seven needed upfront though because that’s what she understood. Just cutting through the bullshit because Seven can’t filter that human obscurance yet. So that was good of B’Elanna even though I’m not sure if that was B’Elannas actual intent.

OMG I’m watching Retrospect and the Doctors questioning seems almost prurient   :/  by her own words Seven was violated. I mean I get he needed to get details but it felt like he was really pushing her. Then when the doctor tells Janeway and Tuvok, they are disbelieving and wanting “corroboration”. Janeway says “in the wrong hands a single nano probe could lead to disaster” like ok but is that what is relevant here?!? Man I feel sick.

I mean this is providing lots of material for my “Raffi on Voyager AU” but at what cost :/

Consider me in shock and appalled. I thought there would have been some kind of vindication. Some justice. But nope. And then in the end they focused more on the doctors pain and and Janeways regret. Like what the ever living fuck.

Seriously I only kept watching because I was sure it had to come right in the end. That it would have to be fixed. That there would be an apology and support and stuff. Not this. Nothing like this.

Ok I don’t do this often but that is going on the blacklist, never ever freaking watch ever again. There may also be fix-it fic. If I can bear to think about it tomorrow. I really I’m stunned. How could they do that? That felt so bad.

@Blaine

That episode, and a lot of the ones around it were so horrific for that reason! Like no one talked about Seven not being believed by Janeway right away and just being told it was from when she was assimilated (eventho now we know that we can’t fabricate memories like studies used to suggest, bc they’re not generalizable). They all moved on from stasis without recognizing that Seven spent a month in isolation, was hallucinating, and willing to sacrifice herself so the rest of the crew would get through the nebula and after all that Janeway said she wasnt giving enough for the crew…

The last time I had this much horror and righteous indignation I wrote about 20k in 3 days. Idk if that’s spite writing or what.

But right now my mind is just echoing with “it gets worse???” Because ofc it does.

I am reeling. Like I had no idea. Sure I know some stuff but this is my first Voyager watch. I’m raw reacting to it like it’s not 20 years old – it’s new to me. So I have all those feelings.

I can’t remember where this line came from. It was in a story I read a decade or so ago and it was something like.

“He picked up the book and his eyes automatically started to glaze over, but the impulse to master the material was stronger.”

I don’t know, I’m just feeling that right now.

I’m battling my impatience because what I want to do takes time. I need to put in the work. I can’t just blitz through it and it’ll be done. We’re talking months rather than weeks, probably more like a year or more.

But I want to do it.

I need to think about how to manage it. Maybe I need to schedule my time a little better. Decide on how much I’m doing per day, or what I want to achieve, or maybe a little of both.

I think I also need to continue with my own personal projects as well. Like I had sort of thought to myself that there are these drawings I want to do of Seven and Raffi, I had thought that I would wait to do them until I had more skill – buuuuuut if it takes a year I don’t want to wait that long. I want to do my drawings of them NOW while I’m super passionate about it.

Time. That’s what it comes down to, finding the time and finding the balance. I don’t like to choose, I like to do everything, and I don’t like to admit that’s maybe not possible. Frustrating. But something to think about.

Ok my friday was shot because I couldn’t concentrate waiting to watch the finale. So I watched it and now I have a feeling my friday is shot because it’s all I can think about!

OMG does Elnor know that he died? If he remembers being on the ship then maybe? Raffi certainly remembers him dying and even with him alive that memory/trauma isn’t going to instantly erase 😭 

I need to rewatch season one as I’m confused about Raffi’s position in Starfleet. The wiki lists her as “operations officer” which I guess might be right?

Honestly my mind is still blown about where they might be taking this next with the borg joining the federation acting to protect the new wormhole ala DS9. Where does that go?

Also I’m stuck on Captain Seven and how it feels like a two fingered salute to the short-sightedness of Starfleet that they didn’t grab her years ago.

Then there’s the kiss /sigh. Oh man I have so many feelings. There were so many little touches between them. Moments of unspoken support. Little glances and looks and just ahhhhhhh. Oh I love them.

Truthfully I thought they’d wrapped up Picard’s story, and done the TNG tour (minus some notable not there like Crusher) in season 1. I really don’t get why we’re doing it again in season 3. Equally I think Picard’s plot this season was nonsensical and detracted from the other far better plots going on.

This isn’t just because I love Seven and Raffi and want more of them, just you know generally the way they are handling Picard is a bit…

Regarding Laris. Did they ever explain how she looked like Talinn? I wondered with the end scene and how she said her future adventures if maybe Laris was Talinn but gone back in time with the watchers?

The problem with having started attempting to do art again is now I want to DRAW ALL THE THINGS!! Buuuuut I don’t have the skills or the time.

I mean I’m still trying to also WRITE ALL THE THINGS!! So that’s a problem.

Thus far I’ve been trying to do an hour of art everyday, 1000+ words everyday + an hour of some kind of ‘writing improvement’ exercise. Plus sometimes throw some luddite words in there too.

For the art I’m following the Coloured Pencil course I got last summer and didn’t really start due to panic attacks. It’s important I go through the course to learn the things, and I need to do it properly and not just rush through impatiently. I need to do each exercise and not just skip to trying to apply it to my own projects. Buuuuuut I wanna draw things!

Seriously I have these ideas in my head that I want to manifest into reality but my skills aren’t good enough. Maybe in time I’ll get there but now I’m just a ball of frustration.

I’m taking a duvet day as I’m exhausted and decided marathoning some Voyager would be best 😉

I’m mid season 4 (first time through) and I’m on the Waking Nightmare episode. Seven is kissing Harry and I was like “omg that can’t be real!” (And it wasn’t) but what made me cackle is the holo-romance dialogue of “resistance is futile” 🤦‍♂️🤣

Buuuut anyway aside from my poor attempts at humour. I do have one kinda serious thing.

I read a fic where Seven referenced the incident of resurrecting Neelix to Raffi, sort of as an apology that as she wasn’t Borg she couldn’t do that for Elnor.

But when I just watched that episode I thought it was more complex than that as Neelix had a bad psychological reaction. Something Seven would have dismissed as irrelevant before but after? When Neelix was putting his affairs in order he made a point to see her first, to let her know there was no ill will and that he thought she was great.

Given Seven constantly says about how she doesn’t get the complexities of human interaction. I wonder if she would have been troubled that she had missed Neelix’s obvious problems. To her at the time he would have been being illogical and inefficient etc. but the things that Seven dismisses fresh from the Borg, are things that do have profound impacts on the things that she does consider that matter. Gestalt I guess?

There is a point in here somewhere perhaps linked to what Jurati said about what the Borg dismiss, is actually a strength that they have been ignoring?

Like part of Seven’s journey is a bit like a Vulcan kinda with the emotions? Spock says that it’s illogical but humans do a lot based on it, and that affects all kinds of things.

@Alyx

If Rios stays in 2024, then they won’t have anyone captaining his ship when they inevitably jump back to 2401. Given that, and the seeds Raffi sowed last episode about Seven making a good captain, would she take his place on the Stargazer?

I don’t think somebody can get promoted to captain without ever attending the academy unfortunately.

Would be very cool though.

Raffi was in gold right? What if she swapped to command red and they ran it like two captains just deal with it.

Or if there is no time to change I can actually see her looking down at her uniform like she looked at that phaser in episode 3 was it?

“Oh I thought gold was command, must have got stuck in the 22nd century there for a second. No idea how that happened.” Just totally deadpan. Love her.

I’m still loving that Seven and Raffi were basically the only competent ones in the Borg fight so yes! Make Seven the hero. Picard can pretend to be the wise admiral in the corner.

Ok so with “Raffi on Voyager” thinking.

Year of Hell.

Seven stayed with the “senior staff” when the others went into escape pods. Raffi presumably wouldn’t have qualified (although Harry was there) and now I can’t decide what’s more angsty. Seven being all “it is more efficient if you leave as you’ll be safe” or “I will tell the captain I can not complete my duties adequately without your assistance”