I’m watching Voyager and Tom said about being in one of those shuttles “for weeks at a time”.

Erm I thought that shuttle was basically just ‘what you see is what you get’ in terms of it being like ‘one room’. I mean it’s not a room but it’s a single space so far as I can see.

Where’s the bathroom? Like do they not have biological functions in the 24th century?

@Pike

I think I read something as in they have a transporter just for fecal matter in the shuttles that just puts it in a waste extraction tank or something

Lol I did read about that being true on even big ships as you never ever see anyone go to the bathroom. They have sonic showers but never seen a loo.

I just made the mistake of trying to see if anyone out there is thinking like me about Picard.

This is really Once Upon a Time all over again.

Are we watching the same show? I feel like we must be existing in different realities. How did you get what you got from what I saw? Does not compute.

If the Seven spin-off happens and it turns into the Seven and Shaw show then I am out. I won’t be watching that. That is a step down the rabbit hole I just can’t make.

I’m not watching Picard until later. I think sometimes it drops early but it isn’t supposed to drop until Friday in the UK, and so I watch it with pizza at dinner time.

Buuuut I have something to ramble about which I have mentioned in the good Trek discord before, and it’s sort of General show so not really spoilers.

I am a writer. Probably not a good one and not currently very active due to mental health. I am supposed to be working on an original novel trilogy but I digress. Point being I have written stories and I am familiar with what I would consider some easy mistakes/pitfalls.

One of the big ones I noticed during revision passes of a prior novel is that time didn’t really move all that much for characters if I wasn’t with them. It’s like if they weren’t active in a scene they were basically on a shelf just waiting. Some stuff obviously happened plot wise off screen but it was big picture, and it in no way accounted for the amount of time there had been. There wasn’t growth, there wasn’t life, there wasn’t realism. It was just sort of frozen to where it was convenient for me (the author) to move them around like chess pieces. It made for what I feel was a shallow and less engaging story. It was hard for the characters to feel 3D/real when they hadn’t had actual lives.

Ever since Picard season one I have basically been like “really?” because it feels like most of the characters have basically been ‘on hold’ in between their screen appearances. They haven’t talked to one another, they have been stuck in one pattern. Picard bummed around his vineyard for 20 years. Now this I was semi-ok with because it seemed to be a plot point that he had just been “waiting to die” as he had left StarFleet and lost his purpose. Season 1 was about finding that again.

But that kind of logic can’t be the same for every single character always. I don’t know. I feel like I’m not explaining this right. It’s just this sort of frustration that I feel like they just dashed off a single line to explain what characters had been doing for the intervening 20 years and left it at that. Life is more than that. I get that screentime is limited and there isn’t time but they can hint at things. But just having all the characters stop talking to one another until the “next adventure on screen” and just do one thing and not grow, is dare I say lazy?

Anyway I’m not sure I have made my point, or been clear at all, but this is just bugging me. Characters are supposed to have lives, not just stop on pause in between screen appearances.

Nobody probably noticed that I didn’t ramble about Picard last Friday. Honestly I didn’t have the spoons and also honestly I just really didn’t care.

I think that was a situation where being less than halfway through TNG meant I didn’t have a stake in things. There was clearly an emotional callback with the guest character that I just had no context for.

BUT

Actually I think that is a sort of useful perspective? As without that nostalgia trip (as I only know what I read on wiki afterwards) I can tell you the episode made very little impact. It was like a non-episode.

I’m not sure do I still have to do spoilers? I guess it’s been less than a week, so warning.

The Worf and Raffi interaction was the highlight. Just give me a show of Raffi being badass snarky undercover.

They didn’t really bring the main plot along very much. It was like 2 mins around the “person from Picard’s past” nostalgia which just passed me by.

The whole “seeing peoples veins” thing that Jack Crusher is doing makes me think it’s connected to the changelings being able to replicate people more accurately. Honestly I still think he touched something he shouldn’t and maybe they need him to make their replicants perfect or something. I’m not sure. Honestly I’m expecting to be disappointed with this whole MacGuffin thing. It’s likely to fall flat.

@purlturtle theorised that Jack and Beverley were changelings. I would like this to be true as I really hate the plot of “secret baby” because they were friends before anything so still don’t understand why she would cut herself off from everyone to hide it. The whole “danger” thing… I don’t know. She just doesn’t strike me as someone afraid of hard decisions. Even if she made a decision made of fear when pregnant (and merlin knows I loathe blaming hormones because pregnant women can be sensible!) but yeah anyway, even handwaving she made an emotional fear decision, nothing stops her from taking it back. Yeah it would be “oh here’s a baby, sorry didn’t tell you sooner” but hiding it for 20 years? She is not that much of a coward.

Anyway I digress because while I hate this ^^ and think the character of Beverley Crusher deserves a hell of a lot better, I just can’t see that the proud writers who tweeted (oh boy I have something to say about that shit) about this “epic romance” when it came to Beverley and Picard talking when she explained keeping the secret – that wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t really Beverley. So it’s sad because it would be a cool theory but I just can’t see the writers going for that ‘moment’ and then be like ‘not really her’.

Anyway my last ramble is more of well kinda this I guess ^^ I am not on Twitter. Haven’t been in a decade or so. I had an account for a while when it first launched but deleted it. I saw some tweet feeds virtue of a Trek server I have now muted as I couldn’t take it anymore. I ranted about this in the nice Trek server a bit but people are shipping Seven and Shaw? Like I want to throw the man out of the airlock. He’s a piece of work. I haven’t experienced this level of dissonance of “hang on are we watching the same show?” since Once Upon a Time and the mess that was Hook and Emma as a ship.

I can’t believe that we’re getting to the half point of the season and Seven and Raffi haven’t been on screen together once. I want them very much to reunite and be together. I still want a spin-off. Give me Seven and Raffi and the Fenris Rangers, doing the friendly neighbourhood making a small part of the Galaxy better thing. Honestly though at this point I will settle for Seven just getting away from Shaw. It makes me blood boil that he has basically been emotionally abusive, taking advantage as the commanding officer, and there’s no justice.

Watching old Trek I have seen some gross stuff. I saw some last night on TNG with the holodeck producing Troi for Barclay to kiss. So so wrong. Where’s the consent? But anyway you can say it was 30 years ago and we can now see that’s wrong (it’s always been wrong but ok) but yet even new Trek seems to suffer from some very gross disturbing stuff and the poor female characters still don’t get any justice. I really would have hoped we were beyond this by now but apparently not.

Anyway hopefully next week will be better.

Re: the theory of Beverly being a changeling I have been thinking about this some more 🤔 my immediate reaction was “that would be so cool but too clever for the writers tbh plus they wouldn’t do that for the emotional convo payoff”

Aaaaand then I realised that actually that kind of bait and switch is something they would probably enjoy. As they seem to have no regard for what infuriates people. They like it, so must everyone right?

So now I am pondering.

I mean can you imagine if Picard learned that Beverley hadn’t ghosted them all, that she had been a prisoner all this time, and that the guy he thought was his son, is actually not and may not even exist.

I mean we said about “how can 25th century birth control fail?” well who says it actually did. What if in the end Jack Crusher was a changeling plot, and never real? Then Picard would have to come to terms with “the son he never did actually have” which sounds like the type of Picard-centric pain the writers like. I mean let’s just ignore Elnor and all the other potential found family because blood is everything /sarcasm.

🤮 I am watching TNG Hollow Pursuits and was this incel before that became a thing? It is so so so so so gross!

Like I am really weirded out that he can create this holodeck program with real people and have Troi kiss him. Be attracted to his gross behaviour.

And it gets worse! I googled and read “this was thought by the actor to represent a Trek fan onboard” 🤢 and worse! He doesn’t get the punishment he deserves as he becomes a recurring 😭 I hate it. Why is this ok?

I mean that was a thing in a DS9 episode where some gross guy wanted a program with Kira and asked Quark to make it happen. At least that didn’t exist! But it struck me then how wrong the holodeck could be

@Purlturtle

He doesn’t know how to navigate social interactions, and instead plays out his fantasies on the holodeck. It’s disgusting, but I think it’s also understandable in the context of having holodecks available unchecked. To me, if we stay inside the narrative, the only major issue i have is how he got to his position in Starfleet without anyone realizing his behavioral problems. Even with being shuffled around and whatnot, did they not have a single psych eval in the academy?

You would think so given they are purported to only take the “best and brightest” and that most applicants don’t get in.

Anyway the next episode has a young Artie in it (Warehouse 13). he’s actually in the preview thumbnail on Paramount+ 😂 hopefully will be fun.

@Purlturtle

Oh that’s a fun one! A lot has been written about Kivas Fatjo (sp?) and Artie and similarities and whatnot.

I didn’t know what this meant but now I do!

How… serendipitous? I mean what are the odds right? Such a coincidence a young Artie playing a collector before he was Artie.

Makes me wonder tbh about if Warehouse 13 existed in the Trek universe. What would have happened with the warehouse and the wars? What artifacts did the wars create? Could artifacts work off world or is it some kind of special Earth thing? Do other planets create artifacts of their own?

Fun thought experiment 🙂

Ok so I am finally watching the Book of Boba Fett. I know I don’t why it took me so long either. Spoons for new things are hard to find.

Anyway I have 2 episodes left so the other day I saw “Return of the Mandalorian” and first of all what the actual fuck? It’s the Boba Fett show and he didn’t appear??? Credit only in his own show? I am appalled! Like Mando has his own show so just like what? No! Why? Wrong so very wrong.

Second. That ship is NOT at all practical. Yeah it goes fast but the cockpit is tiny. Mando is a Bounty Hunter – Bounty! – so where is he supposed to put his captives? He had a cryofreeze chamber ala Han Solo on the Razor Crest. Plus you know somewhere to sleep, store extra weapons, make food etc. – it was a home. It’s like trading a I don’t know mobile home with a trailer hitched to it, for a 2 door convertible sports car where the engine takes up the backseat/boot. Like that is great for the track but it’s not a car to do the grocery run in. That fighter ship is cool to mess around in for a few hours, but it can’t be comfy for spending days in space. I mean if nothing else there’s no bathroom. You’d get cramp just sitting there unable to stand up.

So yeah I am annoyed at the lack of logic.

And also poor Boba Fett being sidelined in his own show.

Is there a word for a person that when they like something they like it forever?

I mean there are seasons for things. Sometimes I am obsessed and all in, and then there are times it isn’t such a thing, but I never dislike it and I’ll go back to it repeatedly over the years. There can be gaps of years but I will still swing back around. It’s like it’s always part of me or something.

Just thinking thinky thoughts today as I am listening to Hamilton. That was such a huge thing and now not so much. The world moved on and I did not.

Me and my decade old fandoms. There has to be a word for that. Stickability or something. Flavour of the month? Not me.

tinknevertalks said:  Maybe a perennial like? Cause a perennial plant is something that lasts longer than two years, and how you mentioned a season for things is how I feel about my fandoms so yeah… Perennial would be my word for it. 😊

galactic-pirates said:  @tinknevertalks ooooh I like that thank you ❤️ good idea!