Seriously behind on my Rumbelle is Hope fic. How did it get to be Sunday? Anyway I’m wearing my “All Magic Comes With a Price” t-shirt and my Rumple dagger necklace – lets do this thing!
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Last Rites Plothole
There were many but the one I kept thinking about last night, is why did Hades kill Arthur? Hades said he needed Arthur to do something for him but then he never gave him a task. I was expecting Arthur to do something to stop Hook from getting the pages, or some other sabotage but that never happened.
What if Hades wanted a backup plan and pulled a Peter Pan on Arthur? Pan swapped bodies with Henry, what if Hades just duplicated his consciousness into Arthur, so that no matter what happened next he would live on. It explains why at the end Arthur was saying that he was going to take over the Underworld. Although to be fair, with Arthur’s ambition, he would probably want to rule wherever he was regardless.
That’s the only thing I can think of which would make sense. With the writers love of Zelena, it would leave her a plotline open (as her ‘true love’ could return) and we know no-one on the show ever truly dies unless they are Neal or now Robin.
Still doesn’t explain Hook’s ‘miracle’ poofing back to life. Maybe, off screen Hook found an artifact that controls gods, and he used it on Zeus. Either that or Zeus is getting a big bag of popcorn and sitting back to watch the fireworks. Hook’s resurrection is so blatantly unfair, even without being contrasted directly with Robin’s death, that it has to cause trouble. Maybe screwing with regular people, is like god’s version of a soap opera.
Last Rites – Live Blog
I wrote my comments down while watching. The episode was about what I expected but it still stung.
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I nearly killed myself laughing – Zelena is going to tell people not to worry, Hades has changed and is no longer a villain. Zelena! Erm when did she become trustworthy?
Wait when did Arthur get arrested? Those looked like handcuffs. I kinda don’t remember how that ended and what happened to him. It got forgotten with – Hook is a dark one. I’m confused.
Oh maybe Arthur’s arrest happened off screen. That makes sense but still they should show that kind of thing or at least explain it. I’m relatively good at remembering everything and forming a consistent timeline of events in my mind. The average viewer not so much. I used to watch this with mum and she quit as she got too confused.
How come kids have unfinished business? That’s kinda sad. I mean I get they didn’t get to grow up but kids should be innocent enough not to have regrets.
Wait when did Zelena fall for Hades so hard? I mean one minute she’s saying she can’t trust him, she’s not sure whether she can believe in their love and boom now she’s a sycophant. I don’t get it.
Oh yes! Robin finally confronting Regina about this ridiculous Zelena insta-redemption. Oh no Regina 🙁 she looks shocked and a bit offended at his words. Don’t be like that Robin is right.
The Rumple scene. I confess I had seen a lot of gifs of this and there was obviously one made up gif. “I have good news and bad news. Belles pregnant and I’m the father” “what’s the good news?” I thought that was real but the actual scene was epic anyway. I loved Rumple going “and why should I help you? It’s your fault.” because it so is and about time the so called heroes get called on their hypocrisy.
At least everyone now seems to be realising how unstable Emma is.
Wait so Zelena has given up all plans? She just wants a house with a picket fence, her kid and her man.
Oh eeek Rumple and Hades phone convo! I freaking love how badass Rumple is right now.
Wait? What? Zelena is owed another chance? But then I suppose as much as I love Regina she was the evil queen and did Zelena really do anything much worse than what Regina did in the past? I guess we have to be even handed about this redemption thing but I haven’t seen Zelena even apologise or do anything really to warrant redemption. Regina had season two and three as a journey back to the light.
Seriously Hook you hesitated? There was no reason to at the time, it didn’t seem like the book was in danger.
Why is Zelena suddenly adverse to fighting for what she wants?
Seriously Hades didn’t look behind him? They were just against the wall.
Ok why didn’t Regina try and blast Hades with magic or something. They just stood there but oh wow Robin, he saved her, he jumped in front of it. He died for her that is just wow. What a guy. That was heartbreaking.
Regina’s glare at Hades reminds me of when Cora fell and she looks up at Snow. “You did this.” – Evil Queen activated.
That shard is a terrible prop. It looks like the plastic mold it is.
Regina’s speech on love. That was actually very good. Now why can’t the writers read their own words and realise CaptainSwan doesn’t have that, not anymore at least, if they ever did. Their love is toxic, poisoning everything it touches just like Zelena and Hades. Love is Rumbelle, is Snowing and hell though I’ve never shipped it before I think I’ve come round to OutlawQueen.
Wait I thought Zeus was Hades ‘older brother’. Also did I blink and I miss it? How was Hook responsible for what happened? Regina and Robin confronted Hades, Hades used the crystal on Robin, Zelena then chose to kill Hades and not Regina. The interlude with Emma outside, and the pages, told Zelena nothing that she didn’t already think – that the ‘heroes’ wanted to kill Hades. Really if anything it made it less likely that Zelena would side with Regina. The fact that she did has everything to do with Regina and nothing to do with Emma. Nothing Hook did had any effect on the outcome.
Awww the funeral. They are putting arrows on his coffin 🙁 I’m not crying, you’re crying.
Ugh they named her Robin. There are no words as to how wrong that is. Even if we are to accept Zelena’s ‘redemption’. Some things can’t be undone and pretending like it was something it wasn’t. No for true redemption you need to own your crimes.
Ok and the prize for the biggest lie goes to – Snow! You know that is the second time she has come out with a whopper like that. First time was saying everyone chose to make the trip to the underworld (conveniently forgetting about blackmailing Rumple) and now this. “I know what you are thinking and it’s not your fault” – well who’s fault is it then? There is a direct causal link between Emma’s actions and Robin’s death. I know Emma is your daughter Snow but taking responsibility for her actions is something you should teach her to do, not shield her from!
I do love how they get the same actors back. Little John for example.
They are literally making out at Robin’s grave. There are again no words.
It’s ok everyone crisis averted. Rumple’s sheer awesomeness coming straight after took my mind off the travesty to human decency. No wait I’m still pissed. Hook did nothing to help and gets rewarded by being returned to life? One of my biggest complaints about the underworld arc was “why should Hook get special treatment?”
Everyone has lost someone. Why is Hook worthy of being brought back? Why not Daniel (you know Regina’s first love that she spent years trying to find a way to bring back), or Belle’s mum, or Charming’s mum, either of Snow’s parents, Neal for crying out loud – but “magic can do much but not that. Dead is dead.” – at least right up until it’s Hook.
I would have thought Neal’s act was far more helpful and heroic than Hook’s.
Seriously writers I get the real life reasons. You want to keep Hook on the show – then it was really not a good plan to kill him off! Seriously who thought that was a good plan?You want to keep Zelena on the show and not in jail hence the personality transplant, instant redemption nonsense. The actress who plays Belle needed maternity leave hence the sleeping curse. You wanted to write Robin out hence his heartbreaking pointless death. I understand why but there are other ways, it all could have been handled differently and so much better.
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That’s the live blog done. You know it wasn’t the worst episode of the season by a long stretch. Rumple was epic, Robin was heartbreaking and said some sensible stuff.
Double bill finale next week. I’ve seen the promo pics 🙂 I’m trying not to get my hopes up but Regina and Rumple! On screen together! Not fighting! Please let them be teaming up. Now that would be a finale worth watching.
Out of curiosity, how many people are going to stop watching Once Upon A Time after this season?
I’m ashamed to say that as long as Bobby and Lana are there, so am I 🙁
Eh, I’ll probably keep doing what I’ve been doing this half season and just watch the Rumbelle scenes on YouTube and check out the centrics on Hulu.
Yeah I’ll probably do what I did this season and skip any episode that has zero Rumple. It comes out here in the UK on the Wednesday after it airs in America so I always watch it there and just skip all the bits I don’t care about. I will always buy the bluray though. I’m a sucker for BTS stuff.
My rule is no Rumple, no Belle, no interest.
Then I’ll check their scenes on youtube.
No need to bother with the rest of the fuckfest because it’s all a bunch of ooc crap.
Watching the show lately feels a bit like slipping into an alternate reality. I’m watching the characters and nothing makes sense. Like did Regina just say that? Wow and with a straight face too. How does that even work?
I still care. I’m not ready to say goodbye. When I stop caring, is when I’ll walk away. Until then I guess I’ll watch with my jaw dropping at “and I thought it couldn’t get any worse, but it did” type moments.
Plus Rumple, and sometimes Regina, can make the episodes worth watching. The other week Rumple wasn’t in it much, came at the end to kidnap Zelena and boom, made the other 38 minutes worthwhile.
I’m not ready to let go. I do still love this show, I just wish that I could go shake the writers and ask them (and get a honest answer) about why on earth they thought recent episodes were a good idea. I just can’t fathom the logic.
what would your favorite ending be for rumple? villain, hero, with or without magic?
Personally my favourite Rumple is morally!grey!Rumple. I like Rumple as the DO, I like his darkness just as much as his capacity to do great things for the people he loves. I want him to be… an anti-hero. Best case scenario Gold ends up still the DO, but he’s shown the ability to use his powers for good (mainly when it’s for the good of those he loves). Sometimes he’s cooperative with the heroes, sometimes not and he always calls them out on their bullshit (mainly how they run to him for help and yet treat him like the plague).
He and Belle reconcile, which takes hard work and a lot of soul-searching. He develops an actual relationship with Henry. He remains frenemies with Regina (after hashing some things out) and grows close to Maleficent (I liked how they bonded over lost children, I thought it was crazy that after Rumple gave her the answers she wanted she turned against him to help Regina, who did nothing for her).
When Belle reaches fifty Gold has made a decision: he’s found a way to sever his immortality. He wants to grow old with her, does not want to live to see his children die, and then their children. That way he gets to keep his powers AND destroy the darkness at the same time (thus he proves he does not love power more than Belle or his family and sort of fulfils Merlin’s prophecy, becoming a man capable of wield the darkness instead of being controlled by it). It involves a complicated spell and TLK.
People still don’t like him but kids think he’s super cool. When people try to warn them to stay away they start up with nosey questions like “But didn’t he save the town from Pan?” and “Didn’t he pull Excalibur out of the rock?” “I heard he once defeated a bear. With no magic.”
I’m also kinda in favour of a super!dark!Rumple conquers all but that’s something I’d rather read about in fic.
Oh wow this is just how I see Rumple! You have put words to the picture in my head. Can this be canon please? This is what I have hoped for all along and thus far been disappointed in the show.
I have said a few times that I think Rumple is a bit like Professor X in the X-Men movies. Prof X always had to get taken out early before the battle because he was too powerful and could have just frozen everybody – instant win – if he was around. I mean he froze a whole museum at the start of X2.
Well every time stuff happens I think Rumple’s going to be awesome, like when he went off alone in Neverland, or declared to Emma that “none of the heroes were him” and then boom nothing happens. I reckon that is because Rumple could just take care of the crisis and then it would be done in an episode, so they have to drag it out.
Also, he’s not the ‘hero’ so he can’t save the day, even though he’s capable. Rather than come up with a reasonable explanation they just make Rumple disappear, like wandering around Neverland for no reason (he is not that dumb). I mean this is the guy that manipulated the whole Enchanted Forest to put everything into motion years in advance. He knows how to take care of business. Can they let him? Nope because he’s not a Charming.
I’ve always said villains make the best heroes, because they are pragmatic and they are willing to do what it takes. About the one thing I found awesome in 5B (aside from just Rumple generally) were his lines about dark and light and morality. I really wish that they would show that as fact in actions, and not just with Rumple talking.
Spin-off for the spinner
Quoting Emospritelet earlier made me think of Marvel’s Most Wanted, the ‘maybe’ spin-off from Agents of Shield. That takes two of my favourite characters (Hunter and Bobbi) and gives them their own show. I’m not exactly wild about the premise, I thought the whole disavowed thing didn’t make sense but ignoring that, it’s going to be the Hunter and Bobbi show – that’s cool!
Which made me think that I would watch the hell out of the Rumple and Belle show. Not going to lie I would seriously miss Regina, or at least old Regina who straddled the line between villain and hero in the best possible way, much like Gold when he decided to do something good.
So how could a spin-off work? I’m not going to lie, imagine a prequel show set around the Dark Castle, with the plot of the week being Rumple’s deals. I mean it’s not like prequel shows are unheard of, how popular was Smallville? So it could totally work.
Anyone else got any ideas?
#i can dream right#spin-off#wishful thinking
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They should just give CS their own spin-off. Then CSers would get endless dull pretty people sucking face and the rest of us could get our show back.
Emospritelet
#comment worth quoting#do the writers even watch their show#I agree#what on earth made them think the recent episodes were a good idea
Once Upon a Time death victim breaks silence on shocking death | EW.com
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Wow this just came up on my Twitter feed and yikes it doesn’t take much to read between the lines.
That really does not sound good. Sounds pretty miserable actually. Makes me wonder what the other actors think, and whether they are counting the days till their contracts are up.
They have got their pickup for season 6 and I hope they treat it as their last. I hope they at least make an attempt to wrap things up. I do love this show and once upon a time – heh – I would have wished for it to go and go. Now? No. Not like this.
Not like this.
Just a note
It’s Sunday so Last Rites will air tonight. I will watch it Wednesday when Netflix UK adds it.
You know the scariest thing about tonight?
How many tumblr posts I’m going to wake up to tomorrow …
If I’m honest I’m not even sure I want to read them. Ignorance could be bliss, I could have three more days of not knowing for sure what happens. Spoilers are not always a good thing.
But then again I have no self control. I just like to know things. Oh the dilemma 🙂
How much will I be screaming at the TV come Wednesday? That is the question.
I really hope that Rumple refuses to help Emma when she goes to him tonight.
The way she treated him when he had no magic was disgusting. The way she used Belle’s life as collateral. In essence saying Hook’s life was worth more. But of course Emma already did that to Henry and her parents when she erased their memories and caused all that stupidity.
I hope Merida punches Emma for taking her heart and controlling her into submission to make her “train” Rumple. And having her try and kill Belle.
Rumple knows he’s a villain and never denies things he’s done.
Emma on the other hand is supposed to be a hero, a savior. Heroes don’t do terrible things to people. Heroes are supposed to save and care about strangers too.
The fact that she only cared about her family and not the lives of others proves that she’s not a hero.So I really hope that Rumple magically slams the door on her. Or she grovel and acknowledges the hypocrite she had become.
Her methods have been no different than Rumple’s. She acted selfishly. Emma can’t go to Rumple and act as if she is a better person.
If Emma, Hook or any of them turn around demand that Rumple help them when they pretty much spit in Belle’s face then I want him to refuse.
Stop going to Rumple if you can’t admit you’re a hypocrite and don’t trust him.
This 100x this! ^^
The hypocrisy of the so-called ‘heroes’ is nauseating.
I would like to add one more example of Emma being pragmatic, and not at all hero like. When she left her sort-of mentor to bleed out and die alone in an alley. A hero would have stayed and applied pressure and accepted the consequences. Emma, ran to save her own skin.
It’s not just Emma either. Snow and Charming also practice “do what I say, not what I do” because if they take action then it’s because they had a ‘good reason’ and then it’s acceptable. If anyone else does it, then they are evil.
It just reaffirms my belief that there is no such thing as heroes or villains, just people that make choices and then have to live with the consequences. Nobody is all good, or all evil – we are both. Life isn’t black and white, it’s grey and the ‘heroes’ should take a good look in the mirror sometime.