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I have written two fanfics with sort of a background crossover with Stargate. Using Stargate lore rather than characters. Basically it’s the Ancients they make it too easy. I suppose it’s basically a precursor cliche and that is present in other media too. Like Assassin’s Creed has the Isu.

Anyway my current amusement is my pet headcanon that the Q Continuum are Ascended Ancients. I don’t think I have rambled about this before but I might have.

My ‘evidence’ is that they don’t exist on our plane of existence – check. They can’t do anything helpful – check. You see ascended ancients aren’t supposed to interfere. Now obviously Q interferes the whole time but 1) only for his own amusement, 2) he puts everything back mostly how he finds it, 3) when he doesn’t the ‘others’ punish him. This suggests to me there are rules.

Trek aliens are varied. There is random life out there. Just as there was occasionally seen on Stargate. But a lot of Trek aliens are basically human in appearance. Obviously differences are beyond skin deep as Spock has green blood and his liver I think is in a different place? BUT crucially a lot of the races are genetically compatibly enough to reproduce. We have half-Vulcans, half-Klingons etc. That could mean that it’s one design, just iterated on. In Stargate the Ancients seeded life, using the machine on Dakara. What if in the Trek reality they went further and seeded a lot of life, in various permutations? They were scientists, treating the Galaxy like a Petri dish experiment.

I said the other day when I was rambling about the Synths and the sentient killer robots and the warning left behind by altering a solar system to say “hey look, something important here”, that it amused me to think of the Ancients warning about the Replicators/Asurans but hey why not? It fits. When I first learned about Dax and the symbiote I laughed about the Tok’ra (because goa’uld don’t share).

Now there are no Stargates in this universe so the ‘divergence’ would have had to have taken place a very long time ago. Or the Ancients removed the gates in the Milky Way for some reason.

Anyway I don’t know this is amusing me 🙂

anneelliotscat reblogged this from galactic-pirates and added:

OR . . . in your universe, the Gates were never “discovered” by humanity. When the series (movie?) started, there were two Gates on Earth: one inside one of the pyramids in Giza, and one buried in Antarctica. And they only found the Antarctica one by accident. So if the Giza gate had been put further west, near an oasis, and then buried in hundreds of meters of sand when the oasis dried up, Earth humanity wouldn’t have found the Gates. 

And Ancient Precursors are canon in Star Trek: the episode The Paradise Syndrome makes that clear. So you’re good to go! 

violetfaust said:  I don’t know a lot about either the Stargate or ST extended universes, but wasn’t that time portal in the TOS episode City on the Edge of Forever quite similar to a stargate? 

anneelliotscat said:  It definitely could have been. Also the time machine that Mr. Atoz ran in “All Our Yesterdays” . 

galactic-pirates said:  @violetfaust I haven’t seen that one yet as I have only seen the beginning of season one of TOS. I will have to try and push through to get to that. Sounds interesting 🙂 

@anneelliotscat the stargates on earth not being found makes sense. It was them not being known/used in the rest of the Trek galaxy that made me think they probably didn’t exist in the Trek reality like they do in Stargate. But I like the thought and I remember that Discovery episode! I remember going “Brass!” and then “Stargate!” 😂 You guys have made my day replying to my Trek rambles today. Thank you so much ❤️ 

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It’s a day ending in Y so I am musing about Star Trek as is my thing at the moment.

The Delta Quadrant was an unknown when Voyager got stranded there.

Now I was a Stargate fan first and they have hyperdrive in that, not Warp Drive. Near as I can tell from google maximum Warp is 2-3 light years travelled per day. For a Stargate regular Asgard-Earth hyperdrive (as seen on the Daedalus) they can do more like 143,000 a day. If they pair it with a ZPM it’s 750,000. Now hyperdrive speeds do vary. The Goa’uld pre-Apophis (probably reverse engineered Asgard stolen) would have taken a year to make the trip to Earth. In the Season 1 finale they did it in a couple of days. Wraith hyperdrives are also slower and they have to stop (a bit like Warp) as the engines/ships take damage and need to rest. But regardless hyperdrive is ridiculously much faster than Warp Drive.

All alien races in Trek seem to use some iteration of Warp Drive. I mean achieving Warp is when a race is considered ready for first contact right? Well it’s FTL not Warp and as I understand it because Warp has to set a course around everything, they are still in normal space. It’s basically just like really fast, with some kind of something so that there isn’t a temporal issue. Which is a bit how Destiny worked in Stargate (which pre-dates every other ship seen). So it could be said that Warp is like “early development” when it comes to FTL but due to first contact, and then the federation, they never broke from it. They just kept going like with a mental block. Sort of an echo chamber thing due to working together the second any race started down FTL.

Anyway so Delta Quadrant is far away in terms of Trek travel times. Not really far enough but work with me. What if races here had developed something akin to hyperdrive?

This is a very long way of musing about what such a development could do to the federation. They have the Prime Directive right because introducing advanced tech to people who aren’t ready for it – they could destroy themselves. Fear leads to jealousy, leads to divisions, leads to fighting and boom it’s war. So if they encountered a race with hyperdrive how would Voyager feel being on the ‘other side’ of the Prime Directive? Knowing this race had a way to get them home but they were refusing for Voyager/the Federations own longterm good.

Or alternately what if they did agree to share? What would the Federation suddenly having such tech do? Comparing 2-3 light years per day with hundreds of thousands times more, is like some guy who has only ever walked anywhere, suddenly getting a supersonic jet. What would that do to the power relations/politics of the federation? Would it help areas that StarFleet had given up on as it could increase their reach as ships could move around more easily? Or would it increase the inequality? If the Federation had the tech but they wouldn’t share with say the Romulans, would that lead to a first strike war as the Romulans afraid of what the Federation could do, sought to weaken them preemptively and then of course the Federation would what? Expand with imperialism. As the Klingons in Discovery said the most dangerous of words “we come in peace”?

I don’t know. My mind is chewing on it.

Remembered something I forgot.

The blocking in that table scene in Picard’s last episode.

From lots of angles Worf was hidden.

It was really noticeable and weird. I kept wondering if maybe he actually wasn’t there/it was a stunt double or something on retakes. It felt like it had to have been done on purpose.

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Watching DS9 and it’s the episode where Bashir is upset about turning 30. I am not generally fond of him as a character, he made a bad first impression, but that is so relatable.

I was a complete bear about turning 30. I felt like I was supposed to have my shit together and be an adult and I wasn’t at all.

Now on TNG. 🤣🤣🤣

Neelix is a Ferengi. His voice is too recognisable for that to pass. I guess maybe they thought with the makeup nobody would notice he had guested on TNG.

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Ok haven’t watched the latest Picard episode again yet. It may or may not have dropped this morning already (UK) but I will watch it later.

I just reread various wiki pages to see if my understanding of the Changelings and the motivation for the Dominion/the War was right. I’m coming to the end of season 3 of DS9 so I haven’t personally seen a lot yet. I don’t like to be wrong but I think I have it right (hope so or this will be embarrassing).

The Changelings want control (literally dominate hence dominion). They have “the great link” which makes for a sort of “hive mind” though they have individuality.

Last week we learned that Picard’s body was kidnapped and my mind instantly went to Borg – collective, and then went hmm control? Picard as a Borg wasn’t the usual drone. So what if the changelings could use that?

Imagine if they made like a ‘Borg collective’ out of the Alpha Quadrant. They would need to lead it like a Queen (or like Locutus) and not be subject to it. But that would sure be one way to dominate/control everyone. We know from Voyager how Seven prized efficiency and order, which is what the changelings like – order to totalitarianism. So it seems to match.

I can’t work out what the hell Jack Crusher has to do with it. From last episode where Vadic captured Riker, it seemed the priority was still getting hold of Jack. Why? Because he was the child of a ex-Borg?

Now if they had been hunting Soji that would have made more sense to me. The origins of the Borg are vague. They were once just bio life forms and at some point evolved. But I have a pet theory that they found the planet Soji made a portal to (to the sentient killer robots) and got infected by the machinery. It is this tech that drives the need to assimilate as you know side nod to Stargate replicators bwahaha. But seriously it makes as much sense as anything. Machinery can only replicate, not reproduce in the usual kind of way, so to ensure its own survival constantly devouring what it comes across to make more of itself, does make a certain primal sense. Wanting Soji to tell them the location of the robot planet so the changelings could understand how the Borg were created, and thus make their own version of the collective to control the solids, has a certain logic to it. But no they are hunting Jack Crusher and I don’t know why.

Anyway this is my current theory. It will probably be ruined this evening but no matter. I like it.

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With how much I am really not vibing with Picard Season 3 (look at me being all diplomatic lol) I am thinking more and more about the season 3 I had plotted out and had intended to write prior to the real season airing.

It started life as an AU of them being in the Confederation for longer than an episode. I then backtracked it to branch from the season 1 finale, picking up some of those plot threads from season 1 so it turned into a season 2 rewrite, then season 3 my way fic.

It was going to be epic length and last year was the “year of moving house” and I didn’t have the bandwidth to focus on such a big project. I don’t have the spoons at all at the moment to do anything, so moping around wishing I could write this epic fic is ridiculous. If I have any spoons they are spoken for many times over. This isn’t on the radar.

And yet I keep thinking about it.

There was so much. Synths, xB’s, origin of the Borg, Q Continuum etc. for plot stuff but also characters. I was going to be bring in Harry Kim and B’Elanna, there was slow burn Saffi obviously. I mean Seven and Raffi would have been the main characters where I do get they aren’t because Picard is the title character on the show. But hey doing ‘my version’ means I can focus on what interests me and not have to invent something random to attempt to keep Picard relevant. Obviously he would still be a character and have a role to play but probably not any bigger than Rios or Jurati.

I don’t know it would have just been cool. Maybe it’s egotistical to say I like the idea? But hey when writing fanfic I am my target audience. I can’t guarantee that anyone else will read or like it so I might as well enjoy it myself.

Like my “Raffi on Voyager” idea. I miss that one too. I had so many thoughts, so many notes, and dammit one day fic or no fic I am drawing them kissing in a Jeffries tube. Of course I want to be better at art which is why I delayed that drawing originally. Now we’re like a year later and I am no more skilled. Lack of spoons is very sad 🙁

I think I get irritated when stuff happens like “big sentient robots” trying to come through a portal and then bam never mentioned again. Like wouldn’t the ‘killer robots’ that the Romulans were so afraid of? That an advanced race reconfigured a solar system to say “hey look here important warning” about not contacting said killer robots? Wouldn’t those robots wonder who had contacted them and why and maybe make their own way here? The old fashioned way. I mean seriously big deal and just nope not a thing anymore. Like I get having plots persist for multiple seasons isn’t very accessible to new viewers but it makes for a richer, deeper world.

I prefer plots that come from continuity. Not random new stuff out of nowhere. But also not calling on past stuff due to ‘nostalgia’ like make it make sense and have purpose.

Anyway I’ll stop rambling but dammit I am nostalgic for my own idea. I just wish I had the spoons to share it.

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I’m watching Voyager and Tom said about being in one of those shuttles “for weeks at a time”.

Erm I thought that shuttle was basically just ‘what you see is what you get’ in terms of it being like ‘one room’. I mean it’s not a room but it’s a single space so far as I can see.

Where’s the bathroom? Like do they not have biological functions in the 24th century?

@Pike

I think I read something as in they have a transporter just for fecal matter in the shuttles that just puts it in a waste extraction tank or something

Lol I did read about that being true on even big ships as you never ever see anyone go to the bathroom. They have sonic showers but never seen a loo.

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Nobody probably noticed that I didn’t ramble about Picard last Friday. Honestly I didn’t have the spoons and also honestly I just really didn’t care.

I think that was a situation where being less than halfway through TNG meant I didn’t have a stake in things. There was clearly an emotional callback with the guest character that I just had no context for.

BUT

Actually I think that is a sort of useful perspective? As without that nostalgia trip (as I only know what I read on wiki afterwards) I can tell you the episode made very little impact. It was like a non-episode.

I’m not sure do I still have to do spoilers? I guess it’s been less than a week, so warning.

The Worf and Raffi interaction was the highlight. Just give me a show of Raffi being badass snarky undercover.

They didn’t really bring the main plot along very much. It was like 2 mins around the “person from Picard’s past” nostalgia which just passed me by.

The whole “seeing peoples veins” thing that Jack Crusher is doing makes me think it’s connected to the changelings being able to replicate people more accurately. Honestly I still think he touched something he shouldn’t and maybe they need him to make their replicants perfect or something. I’m not sure. Honestly I’m expecting to be disappointed with this whole MacGuffin thing. It’s likely to fall flat.

@purlturtle theorised that Jack and Beverley were changelings. I would like this to be true as I really hate the plot of “secret baby” because they were friends before anything so still don’t understand why she would cut herself off from everyone to hide it. The whole “danger” thing… I don’t know. She just doesn’t strike me as someone afraid of hard decisions. Even if she made a decision made of fear when pregnant (and merlin knows I loathe blaming hormones because pregnant women can be sensible!) but yeah anyway, even handwaving she made an emotional fear decision, nothing stops her from taking it back. Yeah it would be “oh here’s a baby, sorry didn’t tell you sooner” but hiding it for 20 years? She is not that much of a coward.

Anyway I digress because while I hate this ^^ and think the character of Beverley Crusher deserves a hell of a lot better, I just can’t see that the proud writers who tweeted (oh boy I have something to say about that shit) about this “epic romance” when it came to Beverley and Picard talking when she explained keeping the secret – that wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t really Beverley. So it’s sad because it would be a cool theory but I just can’t see the writers going for that ‘moment’ and then be like ‘not really her’.

Anyway my last ramble is more of well kinda this I guess ^^ I am not on Twitter. Haven’t been in a decade or so. I had an account for a while when it first launched but deleted it. I saw some tweet feeds virtue of a Trek server I have now muted as I couldn’t take it anymore. I ranted about this in the nice Trek server a bit but people are shipping Seven and Shaw? Like I want to throw the man out of the airlock. He’s a piece of work. I haven’t experienced this level of dissonance of “hang on are we watching the same show?” since Once Upon a Time and the mess that was Hook and Emma as a ship.

I can’t believe that we’re getting to the half point of the season and Seven and Raffi haven’t been on screen together once. I want them very much to reunite and be together. I still want a spin-off. Give me Seven and Raffi and the Fenris Rangers, doing the friendly neighbourhood making a small part of the Galaxy better thing. Honestly though at this point I will settle for Seven just getting away from Shaw. It makes me blood boil that he has basically been emotionally abusive, taking advantage as the commanding officer, and there’s no justice.

Watching old Trek I have seen some gross stuff. I saw some last night on TNG with the holodeck producing Troi for Barclay to kiss. So so wrong. Where’s the consent? But anyway you can say it was 30 years ago and we can now see that’s wrong (it’s always been wrong but ok) but yet even new Trek seems to suffer from some very gross disturbing stuff and the poor female characters still don’t get any justice. I really would have hoped we were beyond this by now but apparently not.

Anyway hopefully next week will be better.

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🤮 I am watching TNG Hollow Pursuits and was this incel before that became a thing? It is so so so so so gross!

Like I am really weirded out that he can create this holodeck program with real people and have Troi kiss him. Be attracted to his gross behaviour.

And it gets worse! I googled and read “this was thought by the actor to represent a Trek fan onboard” 🤢 and worse! He doesn’t get the punishment he deserves as he becomes a recurring 😭 I hate it. Why is this ok?

I mean that was a thing in a DS9 episode where some gross guy wanted a program with Kira and asked Quark to make it happen. At least that didn’t exist! But it struck me then how wrong the holodeck could be

@Purlturtle

He doesn’t know how to navigate social interactions, and instead plays out his fantasies on the holodeck. It’s disgusting, but I think it’s also understandable in the context of having holodecks available unchecked. To me, if we stay inside the narrative, the only major issue i have is how he got to his position in Starfleet without anyone realizing his behavioral problems. Even with being shuffled around and whatnot, did they not have a single psych eval in the academy?

You would think so given they are purported to only take the “best and brightest” and that most applicants don’t get in.

Anyway the next episode has a young Artie in it (Warehouse 13). he’s actually in the preview thumbnail on Paramount+ 😂 hopefully will be fun.

@Purlturtle

Oh that’s a fun one! A lot has been written about Kivas Fatjo (sp?) and Artie and similarities and whatnot.

I didn’t know what this meant but now I do!

How… serendipitous? I mean what are the odds right? Such a coincidence a young Artie playing a collector before he was Artie.

Makes me wonder tbh about if Warehouse 13 existed in the Trek universe. What would have happened with the warehouse and the wars? What artifacts did the wars create? Could artifacts work off world or is it some kind of special Earth thing? Do other planets create artifacts of their own?

Fun thought experiment 🙂

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A couple of years back I watched all the Trek movies back to back (before I watched the shows) and I thought Insurrection was one of the better ones.

Weirdly when people complained about how dark the Federation was in Picard season one, Insurrection was what came to mind, as being like “well the Federation has form”.

Admittedly as I said I am still making my way through the various shows. So it’s possible it’s incongruous I don’t know.