I have written two fanfics with sort of a background crossover with Stargate. Using Stargate lore rather than characters. Basically it’s the Ancients they make it too easy. I suppose it’s basically a precursor cliche and that is present in other media too. Like Assassin’s Creed has the Isu.

Anyway my current amusement is my pet headcanon that the Q Continuum are Ascended Ancients. I don’t think I have rambled about this before but I might have.

My ‘evidence’ is that they don’t exist on our plane of existence – check. They can’t do anything helpful – check. You see ascended ancients aren’t supposed to interfere. Now obviously Q interferes the whole time but 1) only for his own amusement, 2) he puts everything back mostly how he finds it, 3) when he doesn’t the ‘others’ punish him. This suggests to me there are rules.

Trek aliens are varied. There is random life out there. Just as there was occasionally seen on Stargate. But a lot of Trek aliens are basically human in appearance. Obviously differences are beyond skin deep as Spock has green blood and his liver I think is in a different place? BUT crucially a lot of the races are genetically compatibly enough to reproduce. We have half-Vulcans, half-Klingons etc. That could mean that it’s one design, just iterated on. In Stargate the Ancients seeded life, using the machine on Dakara. What if in the Trek reality they went further and seeded a lot of life, in various permutations? They were scientists, treating the Galaxy like a Petri dish experiment.

I said the other day when I was rambling about the Synths and the sentient killer robots and the warning left behind by altering a solar system to say “hey look, something important here”, that it amused me to think of the Ancients warning about the Replicators/Asurans but hey why not? It fits. When I first learned about Dax and the symbiote I laughed about the Tok’ra (because goa’uld don’t share).

Now there are no Stargates in this universe so the ‘divergence’ would have had to have taken place a very long time ago. Or the Ancients removed the gates in the Milky Way for some reason.

Anyway I don’t know this is amusing me 🙂

anneelliotscat reblogged this from galactic-pirates and added:

OR . . . in your universe, the Gates were never “discovered” by humanity. When the series (movie?) started, there were two Gates on Earth: one inside one of the pyramids in Giza, and one buried in Antarctica. And they only found the Antarctica one by accident. So if the Giza gate had been put further west, near an oasis, and then buried in hundreds of meters of sand when the oasis dried up, Earth humanity wouldn’t have found the Gates. 

And Ancient Precursors are canon in Star Trek: the episode The Paradise Syndrome makes that clear. So you’re good to go! 

violetfaust said:  I don’t know a lot about either the Stargate or ST extended universes, but wasn’t that time portal in the TOS episode City on the Edge of Forever quite similar to a stargate? 

anneelliotscat said:  It definitely could have been. Also the time machine that Mr. Atoz ran in “All Our Yesterdays” . 

galactic-pirates said:  @violetfaust I haven’t seen that one yet as I have only seen the beginning of season one of TOS. I will have to try and push through to get to that. Sounds interesting 🙂 

@anneelliotscat the stargates on earth not being found makes sense. It was them not being known/used in the rest of the Trek galaxy that made me think they probably didn’t exist in the Trek reality like they do in Stargate. But I like the thought and I remember that Discovery episode! I remember going “Brass!” and then “Stargate!” 😂 You guys have made my day replying to my Trek rambles today. Thank you so much ❤️