I’m ashamed to say that as long as Bobby and Lana are there, so am I 🙁
Eh, I’ll probably keep doing what I’ve been doing this half season and just watch the Rumbelle scenes on YouTube and check out the centrics on Hulu.
Yeah I’ll probably do what I did this season and skip any episode that has zero Rumple. It comes out here in the UK on the Wednesday after it airs in America so I always watch it there and just skip all the bits I don’t care about. I will always buy the bluray though. I’m a sucker for BTS stuff.
My rule is no Rumple, no Belle, no interest.
Then I’ll check their scenes on youtube.
No need to bother with the rest of the fuckfest because it’s all a bunch of ooc crap.
Watching the show lately feels a bit like slipping into an alternate reality. I’m watching the characters and nothing makes sense. Like did Regina just say that? Wow and with a straight face too. How does that even work?
I still care. I’m not ready to say goodbye. When I stop caring, is when I’ll walk away. Until then I guess I’ll watch with my jaw dropping at “and I thought it couldn’t get any worse, but it did” type moments.
Plus Rumple, and sometimes Regina, can make the episodes worth watching. The other week Rumple wasn’t in it much, came at the end to kidnap Zelena and boom, made the other 38 minutes worthwhile.
I’m not ready to let go. I do still love this show, I just wish that I could go shake the writers and ask them (and get a honest answer) about why on earth they thought recent episodes were a good idea. I just can’t fathom the logic.
Personally my favourite Rumple is morally!grey!Rumple. I like Rumple as the DO, I like his darkness just as much as his capacity to do great things for the people he loves. I want him to be… an anti-hero. Best case scenario Gold ends up still the DO, but he’s shown the ability to use his powers for good (mainly when it’s for the good of those he loves). Sometimes he’s cooperative with the heroes, sometimes not and he always calls them out on their bullshit (mainly how they run to him for help and yet treat him like the plague).
He and Belle reconcile, which takes hard work and a lot of soul-searching. He develops an actual relationship with Henry. He remains frenemies with Regina (after hashing some things out) and grows close to Maleficent (I liked how they bonded over lost children, I thought it was crazy that after Rumple gave her the answers she wanted she turned against him to help Regina, who did nothing for her).
When Belle reaches fifty Gold has made a decision: he’s found a way to sever his immortality. He wants to grow old with her, does not want to live to see his children die, and then their children. That way he gets to keep his powers AND destroy the darkness at the same time (thus he proves he does not love power more than Belle or his family and sort of fulfils Merlin’s prophecy, becoming a man capable of wield the darkness instead of being controlled by it). It involves a complicated spell and TLK.
People still don’t like him but kids think he’s super cool. When people try to warn them to stay away they start up with nosey questions like “But didn’t he save the town from Pan?” and “Didn’t he pull Excalibur out of the rock?” “I heard he once defeated a bear. With no magic.”
I’m also kinda in favour of a super!dark!Rumple conquers all but that’s something I’d rather read about in fic.
Oh wow this is just how I see Rumple! You have put words to the picture in my head. Can this be canon please? This is what I have hoped for all along and thus far been disappointed in the show.
I have said a few times that I think Rumple is a bit like Professor X in the X-Men movies. Prof X always had to get taken out early before the battle because he was too powerful and could have just frozen everybody – instant win – if he was around. I mean he froze a whole museum at the start of X2.
Well every time stuff happens I think Rumple’s going to be awesome, like when he went off alone in Neverland, or declared to Emma that “none of the heroes were him” and then boom nothing happens. I reckon that is because Rumple could just take care of the crisis and then it would be done in an episode, so they have to drag it out.
Also, he’s not the ‘hero’ so he can’t save the day, even though he’s capable. Rather than come up with a reasonable explanation they just make Rumple disappear, like wandering around Neverland for no reason (he is not that dumb). I mean this is the guy that manipulated the whole Enchanted Forest to put everything into motion years in advance. He knows how to take care of business. Can they let him? Nope because he’s not a Charming.
I’ve always said villains make the best heroes, because they are pragmatic and they are willing to do what it takes. About the one thing I found awesome in 5B (aside from just Rumple generally) were his lines about dark and light and morality. I really wish that they would show that as fact in actions, and not just with Rumple talking.
Quoting Emospritelet earlier made me think of Marvel’s Most Wanted, the ‘maybe’ spin-off from Agents of Shield. That takes two of my favourite characters (Hunter and Bobbi) and gives them their own show. I’m not exactly wild about the premise, I thought the whole disavowed thing didn’t make sense but ignoring that, it’s going to be the Hunter and Bobbi show – that’s cool!
Which made me think that I would watch the hell out of the Rumple and Belle show. Not going to lie I would seriously miss Regina, or at least old Regina who straddled the line between villain and hero in the best possible way, much like Gold when he decided to do something good.
So how could a spin-off work? I’m not going to lie, imagine a prequel show set around the Dark Castle, with the plot of the week being Rumple’s deals. I mean it’s not like prequel shows are unheard of, how popular was Smallville? So it could totally work.
It was the 5th anniversary yesterday of the last ever episode of Stargate – SGU’s Gauntlet – and with all the Once Upon a Time madness I kind of forgot.
I am always late to the party. I didn’t discover Once Upon a Time until last summer when I got netflix. I watched all four seasons (ok I binged all four seasons) and I got really obsessive, as I always do when I really love a show. Then season five started and I’ve watched that on a weekly basis as it aired.
This is a Stargate post but I have a point and my point is this – I didn’t start watching Stargate until February 23rd 2013 – almost two years after the very last episode aired! In all honesty I suppose part of it, is that I was just too young. I was seven when SG1 started airing and Sci-Fi wasn’t really allowed in my house, my mum didn’t like anything that wasn’t reality based so I grew up on crime shows instead.
Yeah I’m getting to my real point I promise. When I reached the Season Seven finale – The Lost City – where Hammond gets replaced by Dr Elizabeth Weir, I really wanted to hate her. I love Hammond, he is like the worlds best boss and it’s his principles that made the SGC what it was. He literally created the foundation for how our world treated the rest of the galaxy. His contribution was every bit as important as SG1′s heroics but I digress – he got replaced! Dr Weir came in and I just could not hate her. I respected her, I liked her even and this was thoroughly in despite of myself. She had replaced Hammond, she should be the devil but nope she was awesome.
Now despite the show having been out ages I was pretty much spoiler free. I didn’t know what was going to happen, each episode was a surprise. I followed the recommended viewing order for SG1, interleaving with Atlantis and when I got to New Order and Torri Higginson appeared on screen – as Dr Elizabeth Weir – I hit the roof! Literally I thought I was going to blow a blood vessel, we’re talking major ranting and then a ton of googling as to why Jessica Steen hadn’t got the part for the spin-off (I still don’t know, I don’t think we’ll ever know) and while I came to accept the new Weir, I remain bitter to this day about the casting change. Jessica Steen had done the impossible, in getting me to instantly like a character that I wanted to hate. I’m sorry that I didn’t get to see what she would have done with the part moving forward.
My point? I did promise I had one. I got mad, ranted on twitter etc. about a casting change that had been made for a show, which had been cancelled over four years earlier. Cancelled! four years earlier. That casting change had been made probably close to a decade earlier.
Some shows live on and they still have ripple effects years later. In just over a year SG1 will have it’s 20th anniversary since it’s first episode aired. All these years on and the show still has the capability to amaze, entertain and indeed infuriate. Just because the show ended a long time ago, doesn’t mean that it’s not still new to somebody. It was new to me when I discovered it and I reacted to each episode, as anyone else would have when watching it for the first time. The show lives on.
Watching season five of Once Upon a Time at the moment, it makes me think about people in the future, perhaps doing what I did and binging on netflix. The choices the writers are making affect more than just the current crop of fans, they affect everyone forever, they affect the shows immortality.
It’s all cause and effect I guess because we’ll never know what the road not traveled would have looked like. I have no idea how it would have changed Stargate Atlantis if Jessica Steen had played Dr Weir, or what knock on effects that would have had elsewhere. I was a big Flashpoint fan, and Steen had a recurring role in that as Donna Sabine, which she might not have had if she’d been a regular on Atlantis.
That’s the same truth that says that Stargate Universe had to be cancelled, otherwise Robert Carlyle couldn’t have given us the gift of Rumplestiltskin/Mr Gold, Ming-Na Wen couldn’t have gone on to play the kick-ass Agent May in Agents of Shield, Jennifer Spence wouldn’t have been Betty on Continuum etc.
That doesn’t stop me from wondering though, about what might have been.
For the first time today I actually properly contemplated Once Upon a Time ending. I know all things come to an end eventually but I’d not really thought about it much until now.
You want to know what my immediate thought was?
It wasn’t “I hope they wrap things up and don’t leave a cliffhanger.” and it wasn’t “I hope there’s a happy ending for my fave characters” either. Nope.
My immediate thought was “what will Robert Carlyle’s next project be?” so I can watch him in that. I then wondered if he would take some time off, go back to movies, do more directing. I mean there’s season six of Once first but what next?
I hope it’s a character like Rush or Rumple/Gold to be honest. His recent movie (The Legend of Barney Thomson) was a bit weird for me. So I can’t guarantee I would watch whatever it was if I didn’t like it.
This is my random thought for the day I guess. I think it says something about him as an actor that I can watch him in other stuff and not snigger and mutter one characters name to myself.
Like I’ve been watching House lately and I actually saw that years before Once but I quit early on and Jennifer Morrison was a brunette at the beginning, well in season five she’s blonde and I see her on the screen and “Emma Swan!” breaking into a patients apartment (all in the tumblers), giving medicine (I can spell spell) you get the picture.
Usually whatever I see an actor in first gets imprinted. Very few successfully manage to be multiple chars for me. Robert Downey Jr has done it (Sherlock and Iron Man) and Robert Carlyle obviously but not many others.
Two more days until I can watch Last Rites. To be honest at this point I’m more worried I won’t finish my fanfic on time for the 15th. I kinda seen all the spoilers possible (yeah my self control failed).
Wow this just came up on my Twitter feed and yikes it doesn’t take much to read between the lines.
That really does not sound good. Sounds pretty miserable actually. Makes me wonder what the other actors think, and whether they are counting the days till their contracts are up.
They have got their pickup for season 6 and I hope they treat it as their last. I hope they at least make an attempt to wrap things up. I do love this show and once upon a time – heh – I would have wished for it to go and go. Now? No. Not like this.
It’s Sunday so Last Rites will air tonight. I will watch it Wednesday when Netflix UK adds it.
You know the scariest thing about tonight?
How many tumblr posts I’m going to wake up to tomorrow …
If I’m honest I’m not even sure I want to read them. Ignorance could be bliss, I could have three more days of not knowing for sure what happens. Spoilers are not always a good thing.
But then again I have no self control. I just like to know things. Oh the dilemma 🙂
How much will I be screaming at the TV come Wednesday? That is the question.
I really hope that Rumple refuses to help Emma when she goes to him tonight.
The way she treated him when he had no magic was disgusting. The way she used Belle’s life as collateral. In essence saying Hook’s life was worth more. But of course Emma already did that to Henry and her parents when she erased their memories and caused all that stupidity.
I hope Merida punches Emma for taking her heart and controlling her into submission to make her “train” Rumple. And having her try and kill Belle.
Rumple knows he’s a villain and never denies things he’s done.
Emma on the other hand is supposed to be a hero, a savior. Heroes don’t do terrible things to people. Heroes are supposed to save and care about strangers too.
The fact that she only cared about her family and not the lives of others proves that she’s not a hero.
So I really hope that Rumple magically slams the door on her. Or she grovel and acknowledges the hypocrite she had become.
Her methods have been no different than Rumple’s. She acted selfishly. Emma can’t go to Rumple and act as if she is a better person.
If Emma, Hook or any of them turn around demand that Rumple help them when they pretty much spit in Belle’s face then I want him to refuse.
Stop going to Rumple if you can’t admit you’re a hypocrite and don’t trust him.
This 100x this! ^^
The hypocrisy of the so-called ‘heroes’ is nauseating.
I would like to add one more example of Emma being pragmatic, and not at all hero like. When she left her sort-of mentor to bleed out and die alone in an alley. A hero would have stayed and applied pressure and accepted the consequences. Emma, ran to save her own skin.
It’s not just Emma either. Snow and Charming also practice “do what I say, not what I do” because if they take action then it’s because they had a ‘good reason’ and then it’s acceptable. If anyone else does it, then they are evil.
It just reaffirms my belief that there is no such thing as heroes or villains, just people that make choices and then have to live with the consequences. Nobody is all good, or all evil – we are both. Life isn’t black and white, it’s grey and the ‘heroes’ should take a good look in the mirror sometime.
